Talk:Shibuya, Tokyo
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[edit] Randomness?
The list of sightseeing and historic places seems pretty random. Would it better to list the areas of Shibuya-ku (in alphabetical order?) and then identify the famous places in those areas? -Unknown
- That's one approach. Some of the wards have lists like that. Others are famous places. Shibuya has famous places, whereas some others don't. Also, lots of people go to Shibuya and add their favorites to the list; for some other wards, that doesn't happen so much. So articles like Shibuya (and especially Shinjuku) tend to grow organically... for better or for worse. Fg2 07:33, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it was bothering me too much. I tried to put an order to it. It may be seen as random by others. But, definitely a start. -Unknown
- What is the meaning of the blue signal and when is it applied, rather than red and green? Patrick 13:12 Nov 23, 2002 (UTC)
[edit] Why is Shibuya so attractive to non-Japanese?
Hi, I'm a guy living in the eastern part of Tokyo. Just call me Eugene. Right now I'm planning to write a book on Shibuya. Doing some kind of research, I found out that people living in European countries and the US find Shibuya to be so attractive. Now this makes think. Why are you guys so interested in Shibuya? It is because of the cell phone culture? Is it because of the original fashion? Or, is it because anything is allowed in Shibuya? If there is anybody who can answer my question, it would be a very great help. For me as a Japanese, I like that town because it is easy to accumulate any kind of information of organizations including corporates, local communities and sub-culture groups. Please give me your impressons. -Unknown
[edit] Answer from a Gaijin (foreigner)
Hi Eugene. I am a foreigner living one subway stop away from Shibuya (or 15 minutes by foot, for those of us willing to walk).
For me, from a perch in the Starbucks above Shibuya's center is a great place to watch Japanese people from all walks of life doing the same thing in a flash flood-like chaotic frenzy-- crossing the street or swirling around the statue of the dog, Hachiko, in search of a rendez-vous. Plus there are fun and relatively inexpensive places to shop for things I like (Book1 and Tower Records for English-language literature; Uniqlo for comfortable clothes; Don Quixote and Tokyu Hands for quirky things not necessarily sold in department stores from where we come). I also enjoy grabbing an ice cream at familiar Baskin Robbins and discovering new kinds of cuisine there like garlic-based food, or more "exotic" (from a foreigner's perspective) food in the bizaar-like markets inside the station itself.
What I DON'T like is all the smoking. If Shibuya moved designated smoking zones away from nice places to have lunch outside (and the two-legged smokestacks compiled), I would be much happier to picnic there more often. Instead, I now walk to nearby Yoyogi park or around Meiji Jingu -- where there air is slightly cleaner and thus easier to breathe. With greenery and spontaneous live music, these are also good places to escape in late afternoon from dangerous herds of Shibuya shoppers, many wobbling on ultra-high heels, off-balance from variegated shopping bags through which both forearms loop, like fragile threads through the gossamer fabric of their unabashed materialism.
For the first few minutes of wading through the ebullient current of Shibuya consumerism, I am buoyed by the sheer energy of their common purpose. Then, just as quickly, I find myself diving through the crowds only to re-surface in some tiny, unnamed alley with only a few people and, happily, even fewer shops and restaurants. -DrDann : 02:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, I live in Yoga, Setagaya-ku, which is about oh....the fifth station on the Tōkyū Den-en-toshi Line going from Shibuya. You've summed up Shibuya real nicely :) Shadowrun 05:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- Can't forget the nice neighbourhoods around Shibuya - I lived in Higashi - nr Ebisu and Hiroo. Green leafy trees, parks, small cafes and the English, German, and American schools in the vicinty make it an excellent place tolive. It is also very central - I can walk to Omotesando, Shibuya, Ebisu and Hiroo in 15 minutes - from there you have great links on the metro to Chiyoda-ku, where a lot of us work.Kunchan 16:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fashion
There is some mention of the street fashion and shops in the article at the start, but this needs to be covered in more detail. Fashion is one of the major things in Shibuya and why so many people go there, either to see it or buy it. Where should this go in the article? I have around 100 pictures of Shibuya fashion on our site. Should I just to a link to this at the bottom? -Unknown
- No. Self-linking is against Wikipedia policy. adamrice 15:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of Upscale Shopping?
How did Shibuya make the list? Please explain what stores in Shibuya are upscale? Even the department stores there are not upscale at all. Ginza I would say is upscale, but Shibuya, I just don't see it at all. -ChristopherMannMcKay 01:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- I did not make the list. However, I would assume it is due to Aoyama and Omotesandō (Hills) which I think easily qualify. Bendono 01:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- They're listed, and Shibuya has an entry too. Christopher, why not put parentheses around Shibuya to indicate that the upscale boutiques of Aoyama and Omotesando are in it, rather than list it on its own? Fg2 02:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Shibuya used to be upscale. ;-) -- Joi 03:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- They're listed, and Shibuya has an entry too. Christopher, why not put parentheses around Shibuya to indicate that the upscale boutiques of Aoyama and Omotesando are in it, rather than list it on its own? Fg2 02:23, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hachikō (The Yokitori Element)
I constantly hear from Tokyo people that the "loyalty" story is a myth, the truth is the dog was waiting for chicken. Why not represent this better in Wikipedia?--Sean-Jin 22:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Have you looked at the Hachiko article? I think it's covered adequately. adamrice 23:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] merge from Culture of Shibuya
I'm not sure if there is much useful information at Culture of Shibuya, but it may be better here. - Nabla 21:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- copyed from Culture of Shibuya tal page:
- There isn't enough here to justify an article. Either somebody should add something notable in, or it should be merged with Shibuya. perfectblue 14:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Criminy. That whole article belongs on VFD. Full of dubious assertions. adamrice 23:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
- Merge. Exploding Boy 00:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External Links Shibuya
Removed second link to picturetokyo.com as I don't think there should be two links to the one site when there are so many good sites on the web about Shibuya. Whats up skip 00:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] References, people
Please add more references. Remember that everything in Wikipedia should be properly referenced, to make things easy to verify. You can use <ref>...</ref> and <references /> to insert them, as well as the citation templates, like e.g. {{cite web}}. Shinobu 21:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Other uses for 'Shibuya'
Surely there are many people with the surname Shibuya, how are articles addressing them to be directed to? So for the only disambiguation here is for the music style. I would like people to be able to find information on the character Kazuya Shibuya for example. Tyciol (talk) 18:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- You can start an article Shibuya (disambiguation) and list Shibuya (Tokyo), the music style, and the character. If you like, search for other Shibuyas and add them too -- it could become a good disambiguation page. Then at the end of the article include the disambiguation template by typing {{disambig}}. Fg2 (talk) 23:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Initial disambiguation page is complete. Please add any that I may have missed. Bendono (talk) 05:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
