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• Unfortunately, the latest insignia layout change doesn't render in Mozilla/Firefox as Bryan intended. It did well in IE. Opera resulted in little change from the original layout. A compromise is going to be needed. I prefer using wikified tags myself, but don't want to cause an edit war. Input anyone? - Wguynes 06:54, Mar 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Just as an addendum. I do think I know what it is about my original layout that caused Bryan to want to change it. The two floating tables were most likely stacking horizontally because there wasn't enough text between them. This can be prevented with a "clear:both" property. Barring objections, I'll implement that in a few days. - Wguynes 17:20, Mar 30, 2004 (UTC)
    • There. The clear:both; property is just the ticket. - Wguynes 05:41, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
• Should there be some information about the origin, and historical function, of the sergeant in this article? Or should that be on a seperate page (perhaps one dealing with feudal military service?).--Trithemius 16:34, Nov 6, 2004 (UTC)

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I have altered the layout of the page so that it doesnt have such a plain US bias. Frankly, to put United States at the top of a comparative list when alphabetically it almost always should come at the bottom is ridiculous.

As an uninformed person I looked up this article to help distinguish between the roles of Staff Sergeant and Sergeant. If anyone has information about this, can they expand to include an answer? Thanks. lots of issues | leave me a message 03:02, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Contradiction: this article says "Sergeant is the fifth enlisted rank in the U.S. Army", but the Corporal article says "In the U.S. Army a Corporal (CPL) is the fifth enlisted rank, the first three being forms of Private and the fourth being the Specialist".

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Contents 1 Sergeant Word Origin/ Etymology 2 us army rank 3 "Albatross!" (J. Cleese) 4 Chief Master Sergeant

[edit] Sergeant Word Origin/ Etymology

Does anyone know why a sergeant is called a "sergeant". I guess this might be a interesting addition to the article, IF there is a explanation. --Dwightman 17:39, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

It seems to be a medieval French corruption of the latin word servient, meaning "subordinate". Bastie 21:00, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Howcome it's pronounced so funny?

Because it's French and isn't "pronounced funny" to them! -- Necrothesp 13:28, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

wouldnt that make 'sergeant and 'samurai' basically the same thing? also, i was taught in airman leadership school that 'sergeant' means 'to serve'. -Lordraydens 10:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

From American Heritage Dictionary:

sergeant Middle English sergeaunte, a common soldier, from Old French sergent, from Medieval Latin servins, servient-, servant, soldier, from Late Latin, public official, from Latin, present participle of servre, to serve, from servus, slave.[1]

samurai Japanese, warrior, from Old Japanese samurafi : sa-, pref. of unknown meaning + morafi, to watch, frequentative of mor-, to guard. [2]

So the answer to your question would appear to be "No". At least as far as the dictionary is concerned. Besides, try calling a samurai "slave" and see what he does with that little pigsticker of his. --SigPig 05:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

actually, there is a mistake on this page, it's "sergent" in French, and not "Sergeant". Litterally, it does means to serve people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.166.172 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 29 December 2006

[edit] us army rank

i added specialist and corporal to the ranks below sergeant. if somebody wants to make that look prettier, by all means go ahead. i wasnt sure if just to put in corporal since its a nco position and specialist isnt. -Lordraydens 08:05, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Should we add information about the verbal address of the various ranks of sergeant in the US Army, similar to that provided for the USMC? Unlike what is listed there, "Sergeant Jones" in the US Army can refer to the ranks of Sergeant, Staff Sergeant, Sergeant First Class, and Master Sergeant.Hcbowman 16:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Albatross!" (J. Cleese)

It's an eagle, not an albatross. From AP 1358, CHAP 7, Art 0711. Rank Badges Description:

b. Master Aircrew. A gilded metal eagle within embroidered laurel leaves surmounted by the Royal Arms. Provided in left and right arm badges, eagle is always to point to the rear.
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d. Flight Sergeant Aircrew. An eagle and 3-bar chevron surmounted by a crown. Tips of the aircrew eagles wings are to be horizontally in line 1/8" (3mm) below the upper points of the chevrons, the crown is to be centred ¼" (6mm) above the eagle. In all cases the eagle is to face to the rear. The metal eagle and crown are only to be worn on the No 1 SD Jacket…
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g. Sergeant Aircrew. A 3-bar chevron surmounted by an eagle. Tips of the aircrew eagles wings are to be horizontally in line 1/8" (3mm) below the upper points of the chevrons. In all cases the eagle is to face to the rear… –RAF Dress Regulations

--SigPig |^{SEND - OVER} 05:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chief Master Sergeant

"In today's Air Force, the term Sergeant refers to all Air Force NCOs up to and including Chief Master Sergeant."

Try calling a Chief "Sergeant" and see what happens. Not even butterbars make that mistake. Khakain 03:35, 12 November 2007 (UTC)