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Thank you to everyone who voted on my RFA, which succeeded with a final tally of 48-1-0. I don't want to spam everyone with a thank you message (and I would rather spend the time discovering the use of these new buttons which appeared on my screen..), so I'll just leave this message on my talk page and the RFA talk. Don't hesitate to ask me if I can be of any help ! Now, back to work... Schutz 05:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your RfA was successful

Congratulations, your RfA was successful and you are now a sysop! Please add yourself to WP:LA. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me. Good luck. --Deskana (banana) 21:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Gratz!!!! - TexasAndroid 21:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Congrats! Politics rule 00:05, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
From me as well, congratulations! Sandstein 15:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy first day

Hope you have a good first day as an administrator, Shutz! LOZ: OOT 02:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please amend your bot's Tfd boilerplate

Hello. Please have your bot create new TfD pages in the style used in this edit; single, "camel case" words such as "TemplateName" can be selected (in windows at least) with a double-click. Thank you. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 06:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Does not make any difference to me, so I am happy to make the change. It should use the new form starting from the next run, tomorrow morning. Tell me if there is any problem. Schutz 08:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you; will do. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 19:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
That's fine; thanks. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 08:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shortpages (on toolserver)

1st of all, well done on your RFA.

Is it still you who looks after the shortpages tool, now that its on the toolserver? If so, it doesn't seem to recognise {{shipindex}} as a dab template.

Cheers, Davidprior 11:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is still me. I've just added the tag and updated the page on the toolserver; tell me if there is any problem. Thanks for the congrats. Cheers, Schutz 11:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Schutz, I'd like to make a suggestion on the new shortpages. Could you add links to both (the static and dynamic) to allow navigation between the two please. Thanks. → AA (talk) — 22:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Good idea, done. Schutz 12:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! → AA (talk) — 12:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Another suggestion. Could you add a "last" link to get a diff between current and previous revision. It will save time when looking at what was blanked etc. Also, maybe worth setting up an improvement/bug report page for this very valuable tool (in a similar fashion to the Twinkle one. I also think it should go into WP space. → AA (talk) — 11:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About deletion

When you delete an article whose content is defamatory, it's not a good idea to leave the content in the edit summary - if you do, it can (and does) show up in deletion logs, which can affect websearches later on. Just replace it with "db-attack" or "attack article" or whatever. DS 13:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, saw that just seconds after the (two) deletions, when I checked my deletion log. ;-( Thanks for telling me about it — I'm going slowly to see what I have to learn in the process. Cheers, Schutz 13:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Something I installed a while back, and have had no regrets about, that is a very useful tool for handling CSD deletes. It adds a drop-down box to the right of the deletion reason box. Very nice time-saver, and makes your CSD deletion reasons nice and consistent, with links to the appropriate CSD reason in each case. - TexasAndroid 13:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
This looks excellent ! I was wondering where I could find a cheatsheet with a list of all CSD, but this would be even better ! Thanks, Schutz 14:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Installed and tested — really nice ! Schutz 14:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old Shortpages

A couple of things. there's one functionality that the old page allowed that the new one will not, simply because the new one is on the Tools server. It's something I stored a link for a while back, but have rarely ended up using, so it's not that great of a loss. Here is the link. It's basically a Recent Changes report based on Zorglbot's Short Pages listing. Lets you see what activity there has been on the current list of short pages. As I said, I've not really used it much, so I won't really miss it. But I thought I should still mention it.

Once you shut downt the updating of the Zorglbot report, IMHO you should also place a notice about the new report and parse tool at the top of this page. As for the Zorglbot report itself, I would think that you should replace the last report with just a notice of where to find the new report/parsing tool.

Beyond those thoughts, I have no objections to the Zorglbot page being shut down. - TexasAndroid 15:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok for the notice on the talk page. I had the same idea about replacing the report with a notice linking to the new tool.
If you want to use the Recent Changes report, that would be relatively easy: the script on the toolserver could dump a list of all pages currently listed on a wiki page (without any table structure, nor any supplementary information), from which the report could be generated. It could be done systematically, or only if someone clicks on a special button on the toolserver. This would be relatively straightforward; tell me if you are interested (now or in the future). Schutz 15:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Migros logo new.gif

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Migros logo new.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 17:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Geez... the image was tagged 1 minute after the upload... seems a bit fast and does not leave much time for writing a fair use rationale, does it ? Schutz 17:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Yeah, I'm sorry about that.. I wasn't exactly sure what to do.. but I was bold because the article didn't need to be redirected.

I shall follow the link you provided. :) - ǀ Mikay ǀ 21:23, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I didnt Black the article Tomas Alvarez, instead what i did was that i took the redirect off because theirs other important people with the use of that name...am so sorry for that mistake!EdwinCasadoBaez 04:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Annoyed

excuse me why did you delete the bionicle makuta thing it has Disappeared and it has really annoyed me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Venomite (talkcontribs) 18:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shortpages suggestion

Any chance of getting shortpages to mark/exclude pages which are short as they're under Wikipedia:Deletion review such as [1]? Cheers, Davidprior 13:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes; simply provide me for a list of strings to look for in the article (for example, {{deletion under review}} for the example you provided, but I am sure there must be a few others) and I can add these so that the script can recognise and mark them. Schutz 14:14, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Can't see anything else that should be checked for as a search string, other than the one that was in this one. Cheers, Davidprior 21:39, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Couple more suggestions:

  1. Have a link to this talk page from the toolserver based page (both of them)
  2. Have the option to highlight exclude articles containing "{{Copy to wiki" (should cover all the copy to ..... ones)

Cheers, Davidprior 21:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shortpages on toolsserver is down

I cannot reach the toolsserver report. Is this something fixable by you, or is there a more general toolsserver problem going on? - TexasAndroid 18:19, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Er, coincidence I came across this by happenstance (was conversing with TexasAndroid) and noticed this. Not sure if it's of any help but I just tried looking at my edits with Wannabe Kate at [2] and it says it can not load the page. -WarthogDemon 18:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Seems to be the entire toolserver. Maybe I won't switch off the bot that updates User:Zorglbot/Shortpages too fast... Schutz 20:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Well Wannabe Kate seems to be working again. -WarthogDemon 22:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Zak page

I had put it on Wikipedia:Protected titles/August 2007/List after Poor Yorick deleted it. After I hit "Save", the entry appeared to exist. I thought it might have been the vandal's re-creation of the page so I deleted it. I didn't realise it was you. :( Resurgent insurgent 12:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

That's what I thought — confusion because all the actions happened within a minute or so (I think you deleted it just a few seconds before I tried to do it). No problem ! Cheers, Schutz 12:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Credit suisse logo.png

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Credit suisse logo.png. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 21:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Again, warning added 1 minute after upload, while fair use rationale was being written... Schutz 07:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Both toolserver pages seem to be updating very slowly

Is there something wrong there? Both the broken redirects and shortpages...pages haven't updated properly in a couple of hours (e.g., Carbone's still listed even though I fixed it a couple of hours ago). I should probably just wait it out, but I thought I might as well check to see if anything's broken. --Closedmouth 07:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The answer is at the top of the shortpages static page: at the last update, the replication lag of the toolserver (compared to the main Wikipedia database) was 13953 seconds, or almost 4 hours, and currently increasing, unfortunately. This is the main problem with the toolserver, and there is not much more we can do about it, except hoping that it will be synchronised again soon. Sorry about that. Schutz 07:18, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
As we discover these little quirks and hiccups of the Tools Server, might we want a FAQ page on the new bot? Hosted in your user space here on WP, linked to from the top of the Tools Server report, answering various questions about the bot, the report, and what can go wrong. Not everyone knows what replication lag is, or what it means, for instance. Another thing would be the hiccup a day or two back when the Tools Server itself was inaccessible for most of an afternoon. A FAQ page would allow for centralized collection of the answers to these and other questions about the report. - TexasAndroid 12:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that sounds like a good idea. For example, why I would be getting a 404 error for every page --Closedmouth 08:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Ben Christophers

Hi Schutz,

I'm new here so not sure whether I'm supposed to reply to your post here or on my talk page, but I figure you're more likely to see this, so here it is.

I've found the following articles to back up the 'notability' of Ben Christophers, but not sure which count as 'reliable' sources

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/release/zmrg/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/reviews/singles/2002/01/leaving_my_sorrow_behind.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2004/09/06/entertainment_music_recording_reviews_2004_09_harcourt_lerche_christophers_feature.shtml http://secrettones.wordpress.com/2006/11/25/ben-christophers-interview/ http://www.rte.ie/tv/othervoices/benchristophers.html http://www.murmurs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16318

I plan to expand the biography and add some pictures etc and cite the above sources, but not sure how to proceed. Can you give me any pointers? It would be a shame for the article to be deleted but I'm at a bit of a loss as to what counts as 'notable'. He's released four albums to critical acclaim and I was quite surprised to see he's not on here, which is why I created the article, so I would have thought that would count. any suggestions?

Cheers

Lordmogfather 22:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yet another disambig template

  • {{mountainindex}} - TexasAndroid 17:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
And on Matt Patrick, the hndis template is not being recognized, likely because of the pipe for cotegorization order. - TexasAndroid 16:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Strike it. It was just an "Unable to fetch text" situation. Nothing to see here. Move along. :) - TexasAndroid 17:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
  • {{geodis}} → AA (talk) — 13:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Appears to work on the next update. → AA (talk) — 13:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pie Chart

You've created this [3] image to show that pie charts are often not the best solution. I just found this [4] image, maybe you want to extend your pie chart? Thanks for your work anyway, --84.56.160.238 15:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Excellent idea; see for the result ! Schutz 08:35, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shortpages missing a dab template

{{mountainindex}} isn't recognised as a dab template (e.g. Mount Ellen (noticed that this was reported a couple of section previously - Davidprior 10:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)). Out of interest, have you ever thought about proposing a change to WP to have all dab templates end "dab" (I believe all stub templates end "stub") If you proposed this (and let me know) I'd definitely support it. Cheers, Davidprior 22:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Down?

Hi. Is Zorglbot down? It hasn't created the copyvio subpages for today. Tizio 13:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep, lost of session data. Corrected now, thanks ! Schutz 14:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rencontre du 22 septembre

Salut,
Notre rencontre genevoise du 22 septembre approche à grands pas et il sera bientôt temps de faire les réservations. Merci donc de nous indiquer dans les tous prochains jours si tu seras de la partie sur la page correspondante. Cordialement Moumou82 19:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Death of shortpages

Sigh. The replication lag on the tools server is getting worse and worse, and the shortpages report there is getting almost useless. The lag is now almost a week, which means that any data gained from the tools server is just as old, and just as stale and worthless. Not sure what, if anything you could do about it, mostly just venting frustration. Mega-sigh. - TexasAndroid 13:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I am looking at the page and seing this lag increase. Well, there is only one thing I can do: restart the shortpage bot that directly updates pages on wikipedia. I'll look into it before tomorrow. I haven't had much time lately, but this should be relatively easy to setup again. Schutz 14:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
On other possibility, though I suspect this may be considered a Bad Idea, would be to have the report bot run against the live database instead of the tools-server one. The only reason I think this would have a chance to work would be that, with your code to only recheck things when they change, you check a minimal number of pages each run. But the idea of running it from the live WP defeats most of the reasons it was put on the tools server in the first place, and likely will not happen because of such issues. But it's still a possibility, even if it's a very unlikely possibility. - TexasAndroid 14:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
It is clear that the bot would not be able to directly access the live database, for the same reason that the original short pages report was generated only every 4 days or so and cached (too busy). However, it gives me an idea: the script that runs on the toolserver could try to access the replicated database, and if it is too old, get the cached report from the Wikipedia site. This would allow the "backup plan" to run more or less transparently. I hope I find some time to implement this in the next few days ! Schutz 17:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The lag has started to decrease again — not very fast so far (about 40 seconds lower every minute, so it may take a few days to disappear !), but it means that new, interesting, pages will appear again in the list soon. Schutz 14:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah, it's finally starting to catch up with itself, and we can finally start working on these pages properly again. Any idea what was/is causing the lag? --Closedmouth 14:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I haven't seen any message in the toolserver mailing-list about this problem; often, it is a problem with a full disk. In the past, it happenend a lot because all the replicated databases were one one server, and the disks could not follow the replication speed, but the databases are now split among three computers. It's a difficult task (replicate all the wikis across the Atlantic, and hope that there won't be any lag !), so problems will probably appear again at some point. Schutz 15:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Looks like it's hanging around the 170k seconds arena. Could you revive the old bot again? Or, if possible, run it once daily on the live server? → AA (talk) — 21:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
(ping) Replication lag now 21 days! → AA (talk) — 11:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll get the bot active again ASAP... Schutz 11:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks. → AA (talk) — 11:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Zorglbot

I see your bot does some pretty good work at WP:TFD. If everything continues to run normally, would you consider expanding its tasks to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion?. Both projects operate similarly (organization of discussion subpages). - Mtmelendez (Talk|UB|Home) 14:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, some things have happened in the last few days, so you might want to check out the talk page (WT:RFD). But we're all still open for available alternatives, and your bot seems like a pretty good one. - Mtmelendez (Talk|UB|Home) 23:31, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vous-avez-un-message

Salut Schutz,

Je t'ai laissé un message sur ta page de discusssion sur wp:fr. Oblic 14:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Zorglbot

Just wanted to let you know that Zorglbot seems to have stopped making new daily pages on WP:TFD and has also stopped archiving the old ones. Best, IronGargoyle 01:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep, unexpected expiration of cookies. I will log it in again today to that it will be ready for tomorrow's run. Thanks ! Schutz 05:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time to celebrate

"replication lag at this time: 3 seconds"

Huzzah! --Closedmouth 07:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Wouah, that's great. I was quite happy yesterday when I saw at 25000 or so, I'm really (pleasantly) surprised that the lag has completely disappeared today... Schutz 11:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gregory Rupert?

I kno u deleted a page about 2 days ago. It was the Gregory Rupert page. I am still working on that, interviewing him, getting info. Just put a little sign that says : Tis article is a stub blah blah blah. I do go to Westfiled High, and Im in the advanced stringsa orchestra. He is my teacher. 68.228.14.91 19:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Schutz 19:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, good point. D'oh, dothings in order. :) StarcraftBuff 00:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC) (thats my real account, I forgot to log in

[edit] Bittersweet Poetry

It was a history only restore - to point out an edit I cited in a current RFA candidacy; when the RFA concludes, it'll be deleted again. That summary was in the logs: 00:08, 30 October 2007 Carlossuarez46 (Talk | contribs | block) protected Bittersweet Poetry ‎ (History only restore [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (Change) 00:05, 30 October 2007 Carlossuarez46 (Talk | contribs | block) restored "Bittersweet Poetry" ‎ (24 revision(s) restored: history restore for RFA) Cheers, Carlossuarez46 16:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I also do short page patrolling and knew it would come up; I thought about putting a long comment in it but I didn't want to belabor the issue since I brought it up in an RFA to oppose a candidate I didn't want it to seem I had any other motivation for keeping the article alive; I don't. Carlossuarez46 17:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Glad you asked rather than just deleting it. I asked the deleting admin whether there was a more efficient way of doing a history only restore but have yet to hear a reply. Do you have any insight on that? Carlossuarez46 18:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Zorglbot DST issue

User:Zorglbot is not keeping correct daylight saving time. Please review the Revision history of Templates for deletion and you'll see it's run time changed by one hour this week. I suggest updating the underlying system software. I can provide a Windows 2000 patch should you need one as Microsoft does not. If User:Zorglbot is Java based then please update the JVM. This problem will go away this Sunday and return in the opposite direction for 2 weeks next spring unless the platform is updated. Thank you. – Conrad T. Pino 06:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help; The system (it's a Linux box) actually has the correct time, given the country where it is located (which is not the USA). However, local time is irrelevant since the update should be done at 0:00 UTC, and I should change the (local) time at which Zorglbot is run so that it corresponds to 0:00 UTC; this is straightforward (and it won't go away by itself this Sunday, unfortunately). Thanks for reminding me ! Schutz 07:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Why did edit times change from 00:00 UTC to 01:00 UTC begining October 29, 2007?
Why did the 2007-11-01 01:00 UTC edits fail to take place?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ZorglbotConrad T. Pino 13:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
October 29 is the end of Daylight Saving Time in many countries; before that date, Zorglbot would run at 2:00 local time, or 0:00 UTC, because the local timezone was UTC+2. Now, with daylight saving time gone, the local timezone is UTC+1, but Zorglbot was still running at 2:00 local time, that is, 1:00 UTC. I have corrected it. November 1 was an unrelated problem (loss of session data, cookies expired, I had to enter the password manually again). Hope this explains everything. All the best, Schutz 15:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you and I apologize as the hour was late. The responsibility is yours as the bot owner. I believe it's clear the bot uses a local time schedule in a non-U.S. time zone and the differences across political domains are showing here. I'm stopping here and thanks again. – Conrad T. Pino 17:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
00:00, November 3, 2007 Right on time to the second, thank you! – Conrad T. Pino 00:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broken redirects

I would love if the broken redirects page on the Toolserver could list broken redirects in the other namespaces besides 0. Is that possible? --MZMcBride 03:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I should do this... the current situation was just a matter of convenience, but that is indeed missing. If you don't get back to you soon about this, can you remind me ? Thanks ! Schutz 06:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Nudge. : - ) --MZMcBride 19:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Any progress here? Also, it would be really nice to be able to only select the broken redirects using text highlight. Right now, I have to use a regex to link what I want to link. Cheers. ---- MZMcBride (talk) 21:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding this edit

Hey, friend. I want to thank you for being an administrator and for volunteering with the mop! I also want to ask you to check timestamps closely on vandalism reports. See, on this edit you indicated that the vandalism had stopped prior to the final warning. If you look at the user's talk page, you'll see that I issued a final warning here at 21:25 UTC. Thereafter, at 22:40 UTC, the user committed this act of vandalism for which, a few seconds later, User:CounterVandalismBot issued another final warning. It was after that second "final" warning that I reported the user at 22:45 UTC. In any case, your inclination appears to have been correct since there's been no further vandalism after that. Again, thanks for your help and attention. Cheers! — Dave (Talk | contribs) 23:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dave, you are absolutely right, I did not see the first final warning. At least, I monitored the user's contributions for about 15 minutes after declining the block, to make sure that my decision was correct... Cheers, Schutz 23:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copying Wikipedia to Other Websites

I found a website that copied a Wikipedia page, word-for-word, without attributing the GNU Free Documentation License. Where do I go to report this?

Wikipedia page:

Adrian L. Peterson

Website:

adrianpeterson.webng.com/biography.html

Hope you can help,

!~ WikiDon 07:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I would suggest to have a look at Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks#Non-compliance process, which indicates the steps to be taken in such a case. Hope this helps ! Schutz 16:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel-Henri

Some time ago I moved Daniel-Henri Druey to Henri Druey, the name usual used to identify Druey (see WP:NC(CN). I noticed you moved it back. Besides the bio at admin.ch, is there a specific reason why the article should be moved? -- User:Docu

Hi Docu, it was mainly the bio, but also the fact that the article did not mention that he was called by both name. Indeed, the DHS lists him under Henri Druey, so I am happy to have him listed under this name, but this should probably be mentioned in the article (it always look strange when an article title does not appear in the article itself...). Cheers, Schutz 09:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the rule is somewhat odd, even if the bolded part of Tony Blair is partially predictable. Similarly to Bill Clinton, we could add Daniel-Henri "Henri" Druey to the article. -- User:Docu

[edit] Vandalism Revert

Thank you for fixing the vandalsim on The Oaks Mall (Florida). I live nearby the store, and so I love to edit to page to help out.

-- Deadlymethane2 (talk) 21:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fusillade du 9 novembre 1932

Bonjour Schutz !
J'aurais besoin de tes connaissances en matière de copyright suisse. En effet, j'ai très récemment développé l'article ci-dessus qui reste peu illustré. Un certain nombre de photos sont disponibles en ligne mais aucune ne mentionne son auteur. Quelle licence devrait-on appliquer dans ce cas ? La date de prise de la photo + 70 ans (1932 + 70 = 2002) ? Et qu'en est-il pour les unes de journaux ? Doit-on prendre en considération chacun des auteurs dont l'article apparaît sur la page ? Merci pour tes lumières ! Moumou82 13:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:TUGlogo.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:TUGlogo.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 19:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible bot bug

Hi, for some reason today Zorglbot placed the next day of listings at Wikipedia:Copyright problems on the top of the list instead of the bottom as it's always done. And by the way, now that you're an admin when are you going to start helping us clear that backlog? :) --Spike Wilbury talk 04:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Geez, I have never seen him/it do that before... I'll try to have a look ASAP, but my time available to edit on Wikipedia is more limited that I would like at the moment (which answers your second question too, at least for now :-) Schutz (talk) 07:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
This was due to the blank line between the section title and the first entry — because the bot did not find an entry first, it assumed there was none and added right there. I should tell him to ignore these. Thanks for pointing this out, Schutz (talk) 10:48, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hate to bother you again

Just wondering if you have any idea why the pages I've dealt with aren't being removed from shortpages, even though it seems to be adding new ones fine. It's kind of odd, and it's making the page almost unusably cluttered. I'm guessing it has something to do with the apparent downtime, but from what I saw that was supposed to be have been done on Tuesday. Bit confused. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I have really no idea what is happening there at the moment, but, as you say, it is confusing. The script takes ages to run (18000 seconds, or 5 hours !), which can explain why you don't see your modifications: when the page is updated, it is in fact an update that was started 5 hours earlier ! In addition, it seems unable to fetch the text for any of the pages (it may be a problem with the text proxy on the toolserver). I'll see what happens, and try to ask around. Schutz (talk) 10:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Wow, that is odd, especially since the reported replag is only 1 or 2 seconds. --Closedmouth 13:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, because this is the replag reported when the script begins to run, and it is correct. But by the time the script has parsed the 2000 entries (except for those that were cached and haven't changed in the past 15 minutes) and written the result file, 5 hours have passed. I'll try a manual run over the week-end, but I suspect that it is the "fetching page content" part that takes most of the time: it tries to get the content for a while, until it gives up and goes to the next entry. Rinse and repeat. Schutz 14:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Ah, of course, that makes sense. --Closedmouth 15:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Broken redirects

Yay! What I meant about text highlighting... I batch open the links, however, if I'm not able to highlight only the broken redirects, I end up opening both the redirects and the deleted target page. It's no big deal if to regex the page, it would just make it a little more convenient. Thank you very much for extending the list past ns:0. (The note at the top of the page needs to be updated.) Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay; I replied in my mind, but not actually on-wiki. : - ) The only way I can see is to have the links in two long columns of a table; however, the point seems to moot at the moment. As you've seen east718 is scraping the list and taking care of the double redirects using lightning speed, and if I need to generate a list, it's really easy for me to do so with two regexen. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Deletion of broken redirects

Hi, Schutz! Yes, I scrape your tool every five minutes or so. I'll lay off for a few hours so you can work out whatever bugs there are. east.718 at 22:20, December 23, 2007

OK, if it's bug-free, I'll start deleting redirects again. Cheers! east.718 at 22:24, December 23, 2007

[edit] User:Zorglbot

Hi Schutz. Just letting you know that Zorglbot seems to have stopped working in the past few days. BuddingJournalist 14:37, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Just letting you know that Zorglbot isn't setting up the images and articles subpages correctly for the Copyvio page. BuddingJournalist 17:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your notes. Following the first one, I noticed that the computer from which Zorglbot runs is down, but unfortunately, there is nothing I can do remotely at the moment. About the second one — is there any specific problem, or is the bot simply not doing anything (except when I run it manually) ? Cheers, Schutz (talk) 03:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I think Budding means that Zorglbot isn't creating IfD subpages, so people are creating them manually, and they're doing so incorrectly. Any eta on getting Zorglbot back up? – Quadell (talk) (random) 17:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, I run it manually, which means it is not run on time. I'll bite the bullet and install the bot on another server today. Cheers, Schutz (talk) 17:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
FYI, it still seems to be down. – Quadell (talk) (random) 00:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Yep, the problem on the remote server means that I can not access it at all for now — I can not even run the scripts manually for now. It will be solved at the latest on Monday, sorry about this. Schutz (talk) 09:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this same problem what has haulted updates of the tools-server shortpages list? - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
No; right now, the toolserver's database is broken. I hope it will be solved soon... Schutz (talk) 16:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Copyright problem for Risiera di San Sabba

Hi, '1' the link should be clickable (it is for me) and leads to a .pdf file with a long url which is why I bracketed it. The full url is:

CIreland (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

The "1" was clickable, but was linking to 1 only... thanks for the new URL you added, it seems ok now. Schutz (talk) 20:30, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zorglbot's work at TfD

Hi there, and first let me express my appreciation for the work that you and your bot does to maintain the WP:TFD page. It seems a bit rude of me pressing this request, but it does seem to mesh rather incely with Zorglbot's existing tasks: I recently created the redirect at WP:TFD/T, which is supposed to stand for "Templates for deletion/today". As you can see from the history of that page, a couple of bots have tried updating the redirect at midnight to point to the following day's TFD page, but for one reason or another have ceased doing this. Would it be easily possible for you to add this little change to Zorglbot's regular functions at TfD to keep this page up to date? Many thanks if you can. Happymelon 21:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photos of the Swiss Federal Council in Category:Members of the Swiss Federal Council

Hello. Images transcluded from the commons and categorized in wikipedia are not a problem. Some people are confused by this. Most people like it. It gets people interested in looking for more images on the commons. It is good that you are moving images to the commons from English wikipedia. That way they can be seen and used on other-language wikipedias.

But adding a category link to a transcluded image is a good thing, not a bad thing. Our goal is to get people to those images on the commons, or to get the images to people here on wikipedia. Either way it gets more people familiar with the images, and interested in looking for more images, and interested in putting some of those images in wikipedia articles. There is no duplication of the images on servers since they are transcluded images. I have no desire or need to categorize here all the images on the commons. I only pick a few usually just to give people a taste. --Timeshifter (talk) 10:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I can see why you might think that. But I have categorized thousands of images on the commons and wikipedia. I have also created many categories, and cross-linked many categories on wikipedia and the commons. And in my opinion, all this has caused many, many more images from those categories to be used in wikipedia articles. --Timeshifter (talk) 10:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] svg in R

Hi, I noticed that you are credited with creating Anscombe.svg, which is an svg file, but was made in R. How did you do that? It looks like the device is .ps. Is there some sort of post processor? Thanks in advance for any help. Pdbailey (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you'll find some information in the file description itself: The graph was exported in postscript format, converted to SVG using the pstoedit command, and the layout was slightly modified using Inkscape before upload. It is not straightforward; I have been bitten by a couple of bugs (in particular the clipping of straight lines), but it works. There is also an SVG device in R, but it did not work well enough for my needs. Don't hesitate to tell me if you need any help ! Schutz (talk) 07:40, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shortpages in other Wikipedia projects

Since your tool provides the features that Shortpages promises, it would be great to use it in the other Wikipedia projects, too. How much effort would it take to integrate it into project of another language? --de:Benutzer:Phoinix 11:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Relatively easy. The most difficult work consists in listing templates of the project (in the form of regular expressions), and the categories they belong to (example: if the page contains the string {{copyvio}}, it should be labeled as a copyright violation in the list). A planned extension of the tool was to put this list of regular expression in a wiki page, so that editors could modify it themselves. If you can provide me with such a list (however short to start with), I'll be happy to start porting the tool to other languages. Schutz (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

German Wikipedia:

  • #REDIRECT
  • {{[Ll]öschen.*}}

Kategorie:Wikipedia:Schnelllöschen

  • {{Begriffsklärung}}

Kategorie:Begriffsklärung

  • {{Falschschreibung.*}}

Kategorie:Wikipedia:Falschschreibung

  • {{URV.*}}

Kategorie:Wikipedia:URV

These are in order redirects, CSD, disabiguation pages, redirects für incorrect spelled words, copyvio. A stub template does not exist there. The categories are automatically included, when using the templates. Some templates need options, but the wildcard at the end should do the trick. --de:Benutzer:Phoinix 14:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's how I do it. As for the categories, I meant categories in the list of shortpages (the lines with different colours), so I should be able to do something with your translations. I won't be able to do anything before the end of the week, though — please ask me again if I forget about it afterwards. Schutz (talk) 14:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I guess we could keep your categories. Title -> Artikel; Length -> Länge; Comment -> Kommentar. Thanks for implementing it. --de:Benutzer:Phoinix 15:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.254.51 (talk)
This is a reminder. ;) --de:Benutzer:Phoinix 18:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

The Swiss Barnstar of National Merit
For creating the principal content of List of members of the Swiss Federal Council and getting it to featured list status as the first featured list of WikiProject Switzerland.
This award was given to Schutz by Sandstein (talk) on 09:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Lac de la Gruyère/Lake of La Gruyère/Greyerzersee/Greyzerlake

You may give us your input on the naming issue at Talk:Lake of Gruyère. -- User:Docu

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Are there any specific arguments favoring the new "Lake of Gruyère", you think I should still address?
Somewhat odd is the page that was included from Switzerland Tourism about Etang de la Gruère and all related hits one may get for "Etang de la Gruyère". BTW we should keep Lake Neuchâtel at its current title. -- User:Docu

[edit] RE: Anon comment

"clearly indicate the change": Very good idea. I added a statement. Thanks.
"I personally don't condone modifying someone's comments": 99.9% of the time I don't either. But in this case, I think some important points were made apart from the attack. I didn't want to post the words as my own, so I took out the attack and left the other. I think I faithfully retained everything except the attack without refactoring the non-attack comments. But I'm open to anyone's suggestion who thinks I changed the meaning in any way besides removing the attack.
Thanks for your message. Ward3001 (talk) 16:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I need your opinion !

Hi, Schutz! My name is Victor. I am very fascinated Wikipedia user and I hope that my knowledge will be useful here. I take a keen interest in real estate and mortgage and now I'm working at the article Fizber (internet company). Some days ago it was nominaded for deletion. So I extremely need your detached opinion about it here - Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_March_1#Fizber_.28internet_company.29. Thank you in advance. :) -- Prokopenya Viktor (talk) 23:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Comint-switzerland.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Comint-switzerland.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. —Angr If you've written a quality article... 23:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USD$

Thanks for changing USD$ to something more appropriate... I can't believe I didn't notice that myself! :-) Nzseries1 (talk) 09:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, we are so used to both "USD" and the $ sign that it's easy to combine them by mistake :-) It's always good to have a second pair of eyes go through one's edits. Cheers, Schutz (talk) 10:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zorglbot

Hi Schutz, Sandy indicated that Zorglbot hasn't run at WP:FA since March 3rd. Think you could take a look when you have a moment? Thanks ЭLСОВВОLД talk 00:34, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Same problem at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/NewListings. Thanks--Tikiwont (talk) 13:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:LOTD

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[edit] Swiss People's Party

Hi Schutz; I noticed that user Merrymouse re-added the lengthy stuff you removed from the article Swiss People's Party as "too much detail, not directly connected to the party, and slightly POV". Well, it seems to contain information that is important regarding the current role of the SVP and their Federal Council members, but I agree with you that it was slightly POV and maybe misleading. I have now added information hopefully making the thing more accurate and neutral, using Swiss newspapers as a source (Merrymouse, who hasn't contributed anywhere else here, seems to rely only on the slightly distorted perception of English-language media). Maybe you could have a look, it certainly could be improved further... Gestumblindi (talk) 02:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I have now also created a new "Impact of 2007 elections" section under "History" and moved the whole stuff there, I think it doesn't belong to the introduction. Gestumblindi (talk) 03:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about it. Yes, the too long introduction is one of the reasons why I removed this part of the text. I have changed it again; the beginning was highly misleading (the magic formula is still in use at the moment, despite what the article (or the SVP...) was saying). I have removed mentions of "historic significance" (we should probably wait for more than 3 months before claiming this); in particular, the last paragraph (and its "sea-change in the nature of Swiss parliamentary relations") seems to contain pure speculation and opinions which are not (yet) encyclopedic, I think. We should remember that politicians (such as the one who was cited) are not reliable sources on this topic because they are part of the controversy and have their own agenda. Cheers, Schutz (talk) 07:39, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you; I think that your changes are very reasonable and appropriate. :-) Gestumblindi (talk) 22:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Glad you agree ! Cheers, Schutz (talk) 23:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mainpage bolding

Hey, Schutz, didn't see the bot at the WP:FA mainpage bolding today. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about it; Daylight saving time made it run at the wrong time today (same local time as usual, but wrong time in UTC) — so in practice, it ran twice yesterday... I've updated the time for the future, thanks for telling me about it. Schutz (talk) 06:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Schutz, missed you today at WP:FA. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Schutz, me again ... mainpage bolding busted ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:21, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey, Schutz, me again ... bolding bot is busted. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Hum... can't see why this time. The log message I received by email was ok, I tried running it manually and it worked. We'll see what happens tomorrow and I'll investigate. Thanks for telling me about it ! Schutz (talk) 08:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TfD Daily Log Boilerplate Modification Request

Is it possible to modify the boilerplate of the TfD Daily Log creation code to allow for SineBot to monitor for unsigned comments? All that would need to be added is the following code to the boilerplate:

[[Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed|{{PAGENAME}}]]

Thanks, --Ctempleton3 (talk) 04:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

It should work from tomorrow (12 May); sorry for the long time this took... Schutz (talk) 22:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FA Review

TGV has been nominated for FA review. As I see you originally nominated the article for FA, I think you should be notified. Noble Story (talk) 02:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:LOTM

Congratulations! A list you have been involved with was selected as the WP:LOTM for May. You may want to add the {{ListoftheDayheader}} or {{ListoftheDaylayout}} templates somewhere in your userspace. Other template options are at User:TonyTheTiger/List of the Day/templates. It will appear as WP:LOTD twice. If you have any date preferences let me know by April 25th.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Looks like User:Zorglbot is down

The bot hasn't made any contributions for 3 days, including to the TfD page. I don't mind adding pages manually but it's not being caught for 6 + hours after the time where they bot usually creates the new days and archives old days. Please take a look. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Cookies problem on the bot... I hope I have solved this problem for good (or, at least, for a long time). Thanks for telling me about it ! Schutz (talk) 22:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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