Talk:Sara Ramírez
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[edit] "Calliope"
It's absolutely beautiful, but I strongly suspect we got it from TV.com and they got it from us; the Sara Ramirez and ABC/GA sites do not list this first name; can we get a cite here? --Baylink 02:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hearing nothing, I'm taking it out. Someone please source it; I really want it to be true. :-) --Baylink 23:02, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I want it to be true too! It's a WONDERFUL name. Of note, it's Dr. Calliope "Callie" Torres in both the Grey's Anatomy page and the List of characters from Grey's Anatomy page, with no citations that I can find on either. But I suppose it's not good enough to use an un-cited source as a source, huh? Meh. Please be Calliope. Weirdoactor 22:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- Is it of any value that during episodes, the character's white doctor's smock is clearly and frequently seen embroidered with the words "Calliope Torres, M. D."? BusterD 01:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I want it to be true too! It's a WONDERFUL name. Of note, it's Dr. Calliope "Callie" Torres in both the Grey's Anatomy page and the List of characters from Grey's Anatomy page, with no citations that I can find on either. But I suppose it's not good enough to use an un-cited source as a source, huh? Meh. Please be Calliope. Weirdoactor 22:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I'll see if I can get a screen capture as proof. If so, I'm adding it back in.Weirdoactor 02:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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- The reason I mention is that tonight's episode answered the question for me, and I follow this discussion. BusterD 03:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Added! Weirdoactor 12:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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- BTW, ditto on how lovely the name sounds (esp. when worn by Sara). We really need a nice image for the article. Now if the ABC/Disney folks will let the pretty lady SING... BusterD 20:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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To be clear: perhaps it's clearly embroidered there *if you have HDTV*; we don't. A full hour of chasing through episodes just now confirms it, at 43:42(/1:00:00) in 2x27, "Damage Case"; George and Callie walk down a hall, while Callie bitches about Meredith asking about Doc the dog's leg cancer.
--Baylink 02:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- For those keeping score, her name *finally* made the sound track, when it was a plot point in 3x13, Wishin and Hopin. --Baylink 04:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm new to this, but I know that on this week's rerun, George refers to her as Calliope Iphegenia Torres. Does that count, or does it need to be in print somewhere?
[edit] Birthyear
Was Sara born in 1975 or 1976? Hotwine8 03:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Photo
We need a legal/free use photo of her. Any ideas? Maybe something from her official site? Weirdoactor 18:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- I posted a request for photo on her website, offering options for delivery, but encouraging her webmaster to upload the image directly to commons with appropriate CC licensing. I'm not expecting anything fast, but I suspect we could get a mid-to-low res image with permission, and that would be best for wp and Sara. BusterD 18:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Great, Buster! Thanks! Weirdoactor 18:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Sara Ramírez → Sara Ramirez — Clearly the wrong name under Wikipedia naming conventions. The editors of this article got into a big squabble about not having proper sourcing for the fact that a character she plays known as "Callie" had the full name "Calliope", insisting on reliable sources, but there are absolutely no sources, never have been, reliable or otherwise, for this "Sara Ramírez" spelling. She is clearly not only best known in English, but almost always known in English as "Sara Ramirez". She is known as "Sara Ramirez" on her own web site cited in the article. She is known as "Sara Ramirez" in all four other sources cited in the article, the Internet Movie Database, the Internet Broadway Database, the TV.com site, and the Yahoo! Movies site. There is "credited as" alternatives listed in the IMDB listing, something routinely done there. As it stands now, there is nothing to even indicate any legitimacy in including the Ramírez as a variant spelling in the intro, let alone for using it in the rest of the text or for it occupying the one slot available for the article's name. Gene Nygaard 03:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Survey
- Add # '''Support''' or # '''Oppose''' on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
[edit] Survey - in support of the move
- Support: My knee would jerk in favor of the move... were it not that I hear all her cow-orkers pronounce her first name in a *decidedly* uncommon way. Further investigation seems warranted: *lots* of USAdian sources drop diacriticals, even in proper names. --Baylink 04:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support: I support the move, too. She doesn't have the accent in the Grey's credits or in TV Guide or anything. I just don't think it is necessary. Nikki311 07:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. — AjaxSmack 03:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Support move, even if there is any evidence of third-party use of the diacritic before the end of this discussion. The most relevant sources have already been noted. Gene may be brusque but it doesn't invalidate his request. Dekimasuが... 12:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Survey - in opposition to the move
- Oppose diacritics is a part of today's world. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 11:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Sure they are; they just aren't part of this person's name. Gene Nygaard 22:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Note the discussion above about needing sources for the full name of a character she played, the mention in the nomination that there is not and never has been any citation to any reliable source for that spelling, and the fact that User:Tulkolahten has been posting improper warnings on my talk page and otherwise following me around to try to get into arguments. He is doing so again here, jerely stating his opposition out of spite for me, the nominator. Gene Nygaard 22:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
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