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Contents 1 Merger 2 References 3 Newspaper/magazine titles 4 Education section

[edit] Merger

Argos'Dad has proposed a multiple merge of short articles on small Salamis villages into Salamis Island for reasons 3 and 4 from WP:Merge (i.e. "very short and is unlikely to be expanded within a reasonable amount of time" and "requires the background material or context from a broader article in order for readers to understand it").

This list in question is Aianteio, Agios Georgios, Salamis, Ampelakia, Batsi, Kaki Vigla, Kanakia, Salamis, Kolones, Salamis, Kynosoura, Paloukia, Perani, Salamis, Peristeria, Salamis, Psili Ammos, Saterli, Salamis, Selinia, Steno, Salamis, Vasilika, Salamis, Xeno, Salamis.

Discussion so far from Talk:Ampelakia and pertaining initially to Ampelakia:

• Against Ampelakia and Salamis Island are two different entities. Ampelakia is a city/municipality on Salamis Islands, and Salamis Island is an island. You can't merge those two together. ^{El Greco (talk · contribs)} 14:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, this may be an exception to the merger proposals I have made for all the villages on Salamis. Here is my concern: I doubt there are any sources that provide information about Ampelakia, thus this stub will never be sourced or expanded. El Greco, if I am wrong, I will happily agree with you as we have the same goals to expand the articles about Greece.Argos'Dad 15:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Now that I have looked into it a little more. The other pages, that float954 created are just villages on the island, Ampelakia is an actual city/municipality. So those other pages (villages) can be merged onto the Salamis Island page, but Ampelakia can stay. It was actually here long before float954 came around. But, I also agree with you on that fact that I too doubt, there are any sources that provide information about Ampelakia. ^{El Greco (talk · contribs)} 14:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Agreed re keeping Ampelakia separate. The rest certainly don't seem likely to have sources (unless someone can find Greek ones) and once the unsourced cruft is cleared out, they'd fit pretty compactly into a general geographical roundup within Salamis Island. Maybe it'd be more useful to take this merge discussion to Talk:Salamis Island. As you know, the float954 (etc) disruption is extending to removing the merge tag from all the individual articles Argos'Dad nominated. Gordonofcartoon 23:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I support El Greco's viewpoint, but disagree with him on one point. Those of you who can read Greek could possibly find some useful information regarding Ampelákia at this link. Why don't we have a separate article for Salamís Municipality? Is it because most people think that it is synonymous with the island? Backspace 10:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

• Support the merge, keeping Ampelakia separate, per above. Katherine Tredwell 03:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

I've removed the unreferenced tag; I think it's adequate now, with a just a few specific sections left. Does anyone here read Greek? The Anatropes newspaper site has what looks a good general article (see [1]) that could be useful for filling in background, as well as a history page. Gordonofcartoon 10:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I do, and will look at Anatropes. My father has a print book from the 70s with some info, I will get and incorporate.Argos'Dad 13:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I can read enough to see what a page is about and extract basics like a list of swimming beaches, but that's about it. The ancient location of Salamina, more to the east, would be worth mentioning, and the later history looks quite interesting: Venetian wars etc. Gordonofcartoon 15:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newspaper/magazine titles

List is sourced at the official website [2] - but can someone check the translations? "Tippings" looks odd: is "Inversions" more accurate? Plus it looks a selective list, mostly of monthlies: surely they have daily papers too? Gordonofcartoon 17:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Education section

Provide references for the info contained in this part of the article. How in the world can one know for sure if the students are "proficient"? Are the pupils of the island some kind of prodigies in comparison to other parts of Greece? Pel thal (talk) 11:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)