Talk:Saint Malachy
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Why is St Malachy somethimes given by some the surname O'Morgain. For the O'Murgain surname is given in set of Armagh genealogies. It is the same pedigree as the O'Muireagain (O'Morgan) who seem to have been a powerful church family in north Armagh...? Bernard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.177.197 (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
So which candidate fits "Gloria Olivae"? One doubts they're going to elect Jesus...
Is anyone going to create a new list as they are running out?
No, it will soon the end of the world.
Which is the church in Rome with the Popes images - as it has only a few spaces left.
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[edit] Gloria Olivae
I'm just wondering exactly how the new Pope would fit with the prophecy.
I read somewhere that the Benedictine order claimed that the Pope would be theirs. Does anyone know what portion of the prophecy backs their claim up?
[edit] Benedict XVI
I've read that St. Malachi said the this is the last pope (Benedict XVI - Gloria Olivae). It was the Benedictines that added the additional pope because St Benedict said that at the end of the world their order would be in the papacy.
Perhaps the connection to "The Glory of the Olive" is the fact that he choose the name Benedict.
Follow this; St. Benedict > the Benedictine Order, also known as the Olivetans > Pope Benedict XVI chooses the name of the man who founded the Olivetans > "The Glory of the Olive" thus glorifying St. Benedict the original Olivetan.
- Yipes. Where did we get the idea that the Benedictine Order was ever "known as the Olivetans"? The Olivetans are a very small sub-branch of the Benedictine order: while all Olivetans are Benedictines, very few Benedictines are Olivetans. The order, properly the Order of Our Lady of Mount Olivet, is so small that it doesn't appear to have a website; in 1911 the Catholic Encyclopedia [(http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11244c.htm s.v. "Olivetans")] reported it was down to 10 monasteries totalling 122 monks. It has never been particularly large or influential. At any rate the so‑called prophecies are such a hash that there's very little point titillating ourselves with how the current pope might be shoe-horned into them.... Bill 11:27, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
We shall see over time.
[edit] Consider This
If you go back into this pope's life you'll find that he often meditated & prayed in the Benedictine temples. This would probably tie him closer to the order than just taking the name which anyone of the cardinals could have done to influence the fulfillment of the prophesy.
Let us not forget that our eyes should be on Jesus and not the anti-christ or the end times. The minute we take our eyes off of Him, we will be deceived. It is just as important to live for Him today whether it's close to the end or not.
Times are changing and the only way we can know the signs of the times is to stay close to Him and listen to Him everyday. His still small voice will lead us.
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Most of this is taken directly from the Catholic Encyclopedia on www.newadvent.org.
