Talk:Rosie Ruiz

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Contents 1 Theories 2 Nice work! 3 Contradictory statements 4 To what day? 5 Another theory, she is plain crazy! 6 Subway stations

[edit] Theories

I'm concerned about where the "theories" are coming from. It sounds like original research. They're plausible, but the citations don't seem to contain this speculation. --Tysto 22:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

• It's from a TV show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.77.139.51 (talk • contribs)
• Specifically, these theories were stated on the GSN documentary cited on the page. I've edited the article in such a way that I hope it's now more clear where these theories come from. -- MisterHand 03:12, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
• The Bill Burt piece linked in the article outlines this as well, stating that Bill Rodgers believes this theory. --Doggie Yum Yums 15:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I cannot believe that someone thinks a statement like "The only person who still expresses a belief in [her own] theory [of what happened] is Ruiz herself." is appropriate by any stretch of the imagination. Unless you have interviewed everyone else on the planet, you have no grounds for saying that no one else claims what Ruiz claims. No matter how plausible this may be. In any case, when did she last "still [express] a belief in this theory" ??? If it hasn't been for ages, then even saying that she expresss such a belief is inappropriate.Daqu 12:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay -- if there is anyone who cares about keeping that sentence, please provide evidence that Ms. Ruiz herself still "expresses a belief in" her own version of what happened. If none is forthcoming, that sentence will be deleted.

(And there simply cannot be any evidence that no one else on earth agrees with that version.)Daqu 10:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Agreed that saying the "only" person who believes this is Ruiz is a bit of a stretch, but the GSN documentary cited in this article included an interview with Ruiz in late 2005 where she strongly insisted that she ran the entire marathon. Her continued insistence in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is a well documented fact and if you would have bothered to do a bit of research, you would have found that out. Doggie Yum Yums 18:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nice work!

This has been a nice informal collaboration, look at this page before 1/10... it was just a stub that left a lot to be desired. Good work, guys. --W.marsh 15:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

• Indeed! I went ahead and removed the stub tag, this article doesn't need it anymore. -- MisterHand 16:02, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
• Agreed. Props to MisterHand and others for an outstanding defacto collaboration, and to the GSN documentary that apparently sparked this ;) --Doggie Yum Yums 16:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradictory statements

The article states that Ruiz was banned for life from the Boston marathon. It also states she could have run the race in 1981 but did not. There's a disconnect here. Can anybody shed light on this? -- MisterHand 05:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• The David Blaikie piece mentions that Will Cloney, in an apparent attempt to "soften the blow", offered Rosie a chance to compete in the following year's race, regardless of her qualifications. It appears this was an unusual situation where the race organizer gave her "special permission", as it were. I have adjusted that section to reflect this.

[edit] To what day?

Is "to this day" proper language? Which day? 69.38.135.54 13:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Should say "as of 2007" which is how we mark stuff that will date quickly, to check back and revise eventually. I changed it in the article. --W.marsh 13:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another theory, she is plain crazy!

"The remark alluded to what was already being speculated openly as the underlying cause of the whole bizarre episode, the possibility that Ruiz was suffering from a mental disorder and could not distinguish between truth and fantasy. Among the disclosures, as details of her background were unearthed, was the information that Ruiz had twice undergone brain surgery, once for the removal of a benign tumor. No firm medical evidence was presented to support the theory of mental incapacity but it seemed in the minds of many the only plausible explanation." [1] Mathmo ^Talk 07:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subway stations

I do believe that for a few years at least, they routinely closed subway stations along the route between certain hours of the Marathon, to prevent someone else from pulling Ruiz's NYC trick. OR, of course, until someone or myself can find a source. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 21:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)