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Tried to make the page sound more neutral. I would have liked to give the murder and the trial a separate section, but I don't have the resources. IzzyFerret 01:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't know specifically what year DeFeo Jr. was born, but it couldn't have been 1941. That would mean he was in his 30s during the killings, when his parents were in their early 40s.


Ronnie DeFeo Jr. was born on September 26th, 1951. In and out of psychiatric treatment due at least in part to abuse and a chronic drug user. (user ghost_boy) 10 June 2006


According to the article, DeFeo, Jr., "enraged at [his sister for Dawn killing their younger siblings], knocked her unconcious onto the bed, and as she lay there, he shot her in the head." Yet, if the crime scene photos from http://www.ogrish.com/archives/amityville_crime_scene_photos_victims_murdered_by_ronnie_defeo_Apr_13_2005.html are real, this seems improbable, as the photo labeled "Dawn - age 18" shows her lying on her bed underneath her sheets/blankets. Panastasia 21:14, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] controversy after 2000?

"Until 2000, controversy surrounded the murders."

This needs to be addressed. There is no resolution in the controversy after Sept. 2000, since no one believes him.

172.203.1.125 writes on 26 October 2006: so can someone tell me what the controversy is, why would defoe jnr lie about killing his parents?? what would be the benefit, i undertsand that no shots were heard blah blah blah but why would there have been lies about this?

The controversy about the DeFeo murders is such a large subject that it is hard to give a brief summary. When Ronald DeFeo Jr. went into Henry's Bar and announced the killings he knew that his parents and the rest of his family were dead. The story about the mob hit man Louis Falini being in the house was shown to be untrue, and since then anything that Ronald DeFeo has said about the events on the night of the murders has been regarded with caution. The question of why Ronald DeFeo would lie about the killings is one that can be addressed only by a court, but when faced with a situation where he was the only person alive when all of the other members of his immediate family were dead, he would clearly have a lot of explaining to do before a jury, particularly when he had access to a Marlin .35 rifle. The article is intended to show that there have been controversies about the 1975 court verdict, but that Ronald DeFeo has been unable to show that other people were involved.--Ianmacm 18:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Parole

One source says that Ronald DeFeo has a parole appeal every two years and that he had an appeal in 2005 turned down. I have not been able to confirm this, so any help would be welcome here.--Ianmacm 16:11, 4 November 2006 (UTC) ---Contact---- Has anyone ever tried to write to Defeo in prison and see if he writes back and what he says?

the thing about appeals is that you can only have 3, so i dont think he has a parole appeal every 2 years, but he may have done at some point —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.28.246 (talk) 01:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Henry's Bar

I removed this edit:

At around 6:30 on the evening of November 13, 1974, Ronald DeFeo, Jr. burst into Henry's Bar [incorrect. The name of the bar was "Dakota Rose"] (I grew-up in Massapequa through the 60's and 70's, ergo: 1st hand knowlege... Robert Arnsperger, NC)

This is a personal comment, and it is also contradicted by a wide range of internet sources about the DeFeo case (eg [1] [2]). As with all statements of fact on Wikipedia, this is subject to review, but I have gone with the existing sources for the time being. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Amityville osuna.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drugging of the victims

I removed this edit due to concerns about verifiability:

However, the New York Times reported that there was a possibility of barbituates being secretly administered to the family with their dinner the night the murders happened.

Although it has been suggested that the victims were drugged prior to the killings, the official toxicology report said that they were not. A search of the New York Times website did not bring up anything to confirm the statement above, and it is a statement that would require a reference. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


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