Talk:Roman Catholic sex abuse cases by country

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This article was nominated for deletion on 9 Oct 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Contents 1 Keeping things encyclopedic 2 Pell 3 Brothers of Charity, Galway 2007 report 4 Parity across sex abuse articles on Wikipedia?

[edit] Keeping things encyclopedic

I've gone through an removed some of the more egregious violations of our undue weight and biographies of living people policies. There's more clean up to be done. Most of these sections seem to be merely listings of news stories that include some sort of sex abuse claim against a Roman Catholic Priest. This is not the same thing as providing encyclopedic information about Roman catholic sex abuse cases in each country. We should be focusing on what experts say about public and Church opinion, changes in public and Church policy and laws because of these cases. While some of the news coverage reflects this, most of it does not. -- SiobhanHansa 11:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I restored a paragraph, that was removed on the basis of the reference (i.c. a WP dutch article). I changed the reference to an outside source, but the facts mentioned in the paragraph have not changed in the mean time. Stijn Calle 20:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't really address the issue of WP:WEIGHT. How are these cases noteworthy? What experts on sex abuse or the Church consider them to be illustrative or important? -- SiobhanHansa 20:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

The references contain the additional information regarding their validity. Stijn Calle 21:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Which has nothing to do with undue weight. -- SiobhanHansa 21:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pell

In regard to Student7's comment in the article - it seems likely to me that an Archbishop having to step aside for a while because of accusations is noteworthy and had an impact on the Church there - we should really look for reporting that talks about the impact of him stepping aside and then being cleared to work again. What it did to the Church and to public perception of the Church. I would have thought good local Catholic publications would be good sources of opinion pieces from experts on that. But it should be made clear it was an enquiry, he was not charged, and the findings were that the available evidence could not sustain a criminal prosecution. -- SiobhanHansa 21:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brothers of Charity, Galway 2007 report

I've added a press ref on this report, necessarily brief.86.42.198.32 (talk) 10:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parity across sex abuse articles on Wikipedia?

Perhaps there are good/experienced editors who look at this page, who might be interested in taking a look at a (very) different article: Scouting sex abuse cases. There are well-organised vested interests determined to cover-up what goes in the Scouts so some fresh contributions might be useful. Testbed (talk) 20:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)