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I have created a page for Robert Hope-Jones, inventor of the theatre organ. More information and expansion of this article is welcome. Erzahler 21:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


Yes- a fascinating man- inventive, even in the manner of his suicide.Saxophobia 00:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Comments from article (moved to talk page)

I removed the following unsourced and POV section from the article, as well as the commentary that follows it. --Esprqii 00:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Organ builders had actually been imitating musical instruments for hundreds of years and Hope-Jones' attempts were probably among the least successful. His tonal designs were ludicrous, reducing the entire organ to a fat, opaque mass of unisons and octaves. He attempted to build some church organs but the kind of stops he made were only of use in the theatre organ and he ended up working for Wurlitzer. The diaphone was arguably his most useful invention as, even though its unblending tone is of no use whatever in a proper organ chorus, diaphonic reeds have been used successfully to make foghorns.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.151.139.15 (talk • contribs) 08:24, May 8, 2007


The item above seems thoroughly biased and unfair to an English inventor.

For instance in almost direct contradiction, here is the blurb of a book advertised on the Organ Historical Society website

http://www.ohscatalog.com/robhop.html

padRobert Hope-Jones by David H. Fox

Obsessed with invention, Robert Hope-Jones struck a pathway that led to the fabulous Wurlitzer theatre organs. David Fox surveys Hope-Jones’ many careers: as a builder of church and cathedral organs in England, as an inventor of organ devices and pipes that are still widely used, as a church musician, and as the impetus for the name Wurlitzer to reign supreme as the most widely admired theatre organ. Mystery, scandal, genius, great ambition for the organ, and both enmity and loyalty among his peers marked Hope-Jones’ life as told in this major biography. Included are stoplists of 103 organs built 1887-1911, a compiled opus list of 246 Hope-Jones organs, a list of 122 Hope-Jones employees, and illustrated discussions of the organ devices invented by Hope-Jones and patented in the United States and/or England. 300 pages, hardbound, many photographs.


Also, the American Theatre Organ Society :

http://www.atos.org/Pages/Journal/HopeJones/hopejones_1.html A quotation :

Robert Hope-Jones did everything he could to make each rank a thing of great beauty. He thought in terms of ranks, not whole divisions. He placed many ranks on separate windchests with just the right pressure to bring out a style of tone and to make pipes sound efficiently. There is, after all, a direct relation of tonal results between wind pressure and size and shape of the air column as a thing in itself. Some ranks sat high up on stilts, others were right behind the shades, and still others were buried deep in concrete chambers, usually with shades high up on top, not always on the sides. He understood the reflection patterns that sound waves follow. In one organ, he made use of a masonry wall of great thickness to reflect sound upward against a wide, curved wooden roof. Here even the soft Dulciana Celeste could be heard in the last row seats -- and with the swell shades closed!

Because his thinking was thoroughly orchestral, he built some of his later instruments so that strings could fade or dissolve into horn tone, and trombas and tubas could overwhelm diapasons. No one fabricated a dulciana more silvery than his, an orchestral oboe that sizzled with more high overtones, or a muted violin that showed off more "rosin." Yet he loved all sorts of diapasons and other purely organ tones. He experimented with many sizes and dimensions of chimneys in order to make all sorts of combinations of odd- and even-numbered harmonics, just from one stop. However, like most imitative stops in the organ, his were much louder than their counterparts in the orchestra. This was knowingly done so that under expression, a clarinet, for example, could sound like four ranks or a mere whisper of reedy timbre. Thus every stop might be a melody voice.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.94.74 (talk • contribs) 19:21, August 26, 2007

[edit] How did he commit suicide ?

http://www.esm.rochester.edu/organ/PDF/Resonance5.pdf

Page 16. : quote :

... wonderfully colorful history of Robert Hope-Jones, himself a very colorful man, and his developments in organ building. Of particular interest to us was the end of his life. In 1914, depressed and frustrated by his new association with the Wurlitzer company, Hope-Jones traveled to Rochester to commit suicide. He planned to gas himself using the gas lamp behind the console at the Universalist church, but arrived only to find the church had switched to electric lighting. Not to be thwarted, Bethards recounted, Hope-Jones rented an apartment nearby and performed the deed there.


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