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"At the end of World War I the Rhineland was subject to the Treaty of Versailles, which created lots of bitterness in Switzerland, and was one of the many reasons for World War II. The reoccupation of the Rhineland by Nazi Germany increased Hitler's popularity in Germany. " Is this quoted from someone's grade 10 history project?

Celtic renos is credited all over the Internet as signifying "raging flow." Does it? Are there any Celtic cognates to support this reading? Here would be the entry to discuss it. (Not ignorant me, needless to say.) Wetman 22:05, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I put the correct etymology. A cognate of Rhine is old Irish rian ("the sea"), but there are no cognates in modern Celtic languages. Hardouin 17:30, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

An anonymous user has added a reference which I think may be vandalism, so I'm removing it. If it's not vandalism, please can someone clarify and restore it if necessary ? Thanks GeraldH 13:05, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Meuse as a tributary of the Rhine? 2 Railway bridges 3 Outstanding 4 Commercial Traffic on the Rhine 5 Prehistory 6 Geography Vandalism 7 Breisach 8 Rhein -> Rhine 9 Requested move 10 Basel incident and pollution, merge from River Rhine Pollution: November 1986 11 WikiProject class rating 12 "Most Important" 13 Basin

[edit] Meuse as a tributary of the Rhine?

This article lists the River Meuse as being a tributary of the Rhine. Yes, there is some intermixing of the waters in the lower reaches, but the Maas (Meuse) remains a separate river with its own mouth in the Hollandsch Diep, doesn't it? One of the Rhine's mouths is the IJssel, but no Maas/Meuse water flows there, for instance. I think there should at least be a note explaining that the Maas/Meuse is a "partial tirbutary" or somesuch (is there a real word for this situation?). Perhaps it should state that the two rivers share a common delta (in the list of tributaries, I mean; it's already in the main text), rather than demoting the Maas to a mere unqualified tributary. --Stemonitis 09:26, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The most famous example of this is the Brahmaputra-Ganges delta. Ideally, we should have a worldwide policy for this. I think that rivers that share a delta are generally considered as one river system, but you are right that there's a difference to a plain old tributary. So marking it a "partial tributary" seems a good idea. I would argue however that it makes no sense to separate the Rhine basin from the Meuse basin (to which basin does the area of the shared delta belong?!). I believe (can anybody confirm this?) the number given (185,000 km²) does indeed include the Meuse. --Chl 22:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And while I'm here, wouldn't it make more sense to list all the tributaries together (noting which side they enter from), rather than separating the left-bank tributaries from the right-bank tributaries? --Stemonitis 09:26, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Railway bridges

There are railway bridges at Mainz and Koblenz, but I'd have to check what the nearest stations are. If someone happens to have that information to hand... Alai 04:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Outstanding

This article is getting to be outstanding. I can't think of any other encyclopedia that puts this info at your fingertips.Botteville 00:48, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

It would be appropriate to add a section dedicated to the many legends and myths of the Rhein River. There are an abundance of books and articles on this topic that can be listed as references. The myths and legends are just as important as the history when it comes to the culture of the region.

[edit] Commercial Traffic on the Rhine

It would be interesting if someone were to add a few paras on the use of the Rhine by commercial barge traffic. I am surprised to learn that these barges can travel when the water depth is as low as 85cm! is this right? And what are the effects of low water levels on traffic? Bearfoot 23:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Prehistory

I was just wondering if there really is a need for all of the subheadings under "prehistory"; the majority of them aren't even in use. -T. Desloges (6 January 2006)

[edit] Geography Vandalism

Someone needs to fix the geography section.

fixed ---Sluzzelin 09:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Breisach

Moved Breisach from 'large cities' to the smaller ones. And even that is debattable...but considering it was somewhat historically important, I don't remove it entirely. --Doc Tsiolkovski 16:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rhein -> Rhine

The subject of this article has an English language name (Rhine) and as this is the English language encyclopedia, we should use that name. Previously the article rather than arbitrarily adopted the German language name (Rhein), ignoring the fact that the river is shared between several nations, each with their own name for it. So I have changed all the occurrences I found.

The exception to this is where the article is actually talking about the name of the river, where the actual name in question should be used. Ironically the only cases I found where this applied were talking about the name in the Netherlands, where Rhein is less acceptable to the locals than Rhine. So in these cases, I've changed the name to 'Rijn'. -- Chris j wood 15:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I have confronted the user, a German nationalist, with his edits. I don't expect him to reply, but if he does it should have little value. Thanks for removing his edits.Rex 19:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Who the hell would move this article to "Rhein"? That's like moving Munich to "München", or Carlsbad to Karlovy Vary... oh wait. Antman -- chat 20:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Karlovy Vary is entry in the encyclopedia Britannica, stop your war, and being disruptive against consensus. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about? Do you even know what consensus means? Antman -- chat 17:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Stop being uncivil ! ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 19:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd remind you that harassment is incivility, as is following someone and commenting on all of their comments. Antman -- chat 01:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

This article has been renamed from Rhine (river) to Rhine as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 09:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basel incident and pollution, merge from River Rhine Pollution: November 1986

I removed the section about the Basel pollution incident of 1986 because it was badly written, poorly sourced, and inappropriately placed; however, I suggest that the information in River Rhine Pollution: November 1986 be placed somewhere, perhaps under a section called "Pollution", "Ecology", or "Environmental History", as this info is definitely important, and there are ample online sources for this. It seems that no "Merge from" tag was added to start a discussion on this, so I'll add one. Feeeshboy 01:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

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[edit] "Most Important"

I think the phrase Most Important could be a bit bias and not very encyclopedia like. Perhaps somebody should consider changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.189.157 (talk) 21:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basin

The Rhine's basin also comprises all of Luxembourg and at least the Belgian municipality of Attert plus some of the Eastern Cantons with the river Our. Also see this map. Belgium and Luxembourg belong in the list of basin countries in the upper right table.Wakari07 (talk) 01:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)