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Ummm ...

Uh, I sort of thought someone would kinda "welcome" me to the community. But, what the heck.

[edit] Welcome!!!

Welcome to Wikipedia!

Never mind about people not welcoming you yet. It took 6 months before someone noticed that I hadn't been 'welcomed' (see User_talk:DonkeyKong64).

I'm not a very prolific contributer to Wikipedia - in fact, almost all my contributions are either minor edits (formatting, spelling, grammar edits), or suggestions/comments on talk pages.

I am also interested in philosophy, as well as being scientifically minded (I am a mathematics student). Also, I love talking to thoughtful people who have perspectives that are different from my own. As an agnostic/atheist from a generally left-wing background, I would love to learn about Hinduism and right-wing philosophies.

Well, I guess that's all I've got to say for now. If you want to reply to me, leave a message on my talk page. And have fun editing wikipedia! DonkeyKong64 (Mathematician in training) 07:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how one is supposed to handle discussions like this. I guess i'll continue the discussion on my talk page, and post a message here every time I reply on there. Otherwise we will get hopelessly confused. That is assuming the discussion keeps going, which it may not, but anyway...

I am now going to my talk page to reply to your post. DonkeyKong64 (Mathematician in training) 23:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't end up replying like I said I would. I've been busy recently... I intend to reply at some point when I get around to it. :P DonkeyKong64 (Mathematician in training) 17:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Hinduism

Hi! You may want to join this project. Thanks! Gizza^{Discuss ©} 23:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the invitation. I've already joined! --User:ReluctantPhilosopher 08:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] you are welcome!

Go 'head. Eduemoni^↑talk↓ 00:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] हिन्दी / िहन्दी ???

i would like to point out here that the correct spelling of HINDI in devanagri script would be िहन्दी and not हिन्दी (with choti-ee-ki-matra (ि) on ह and not on न). ANANT SINGH अनंत िसंह 08:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] other templates for hindi

thanks for replying. kindly refer to the other templates for hindi (hi-1 to hi-4). hindi is spelt as हिन्दी. is it the correct spelling in devanagri script? i don't think so.

my userboxes are fine. i don see any dotted circle below the ee ki matra...i'm using firefox only. i dunno what the prob is. the way hindi is spelt in hi-1 to hi-4 is appearing to me as HANIDI! i guess the hindi fonts are screwed up over the net.

i've spelt it the right way man. it appears correct to me (i mean, i wont spell my own surname wrong)...i suppose the indic languages are not installed on my comp. i'll check those and see. ok...have done that. will see what the prob is in my computer. regards. ANANT SINGH अनंत िसंह 09:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] welcome

welcome to Wikipedia. I am replying on my own talkpage. dab (𒁳) 09:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your sessage for Alison

Actually she is on vacation in Ireland and only occasionaly popping in. Here is a more comprehensive welcome that gives you many links to some of the stuff you might like to get involved in. So welcome ww2censor 03:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi!

Hi! Thanks for the message. To answer your questions: I am an American, living in California. I am married and have 2 college age children. I am a member of the Unification Church. I lot of what I do on Wikipedia is to explain and/or defend my faith. Other than that I try to have fun without hurting anyone. Wishing you the best. Steve Dufour 03:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Graphology Books

In addition to the books listed in the articles on the Psychogram and Graphoanalysis, take a look at the following:

• Barry L Beyerstein & Dale F Beyerstein: The Write Stuff: Evaluations of Graphology - The Study of Handwriting Analysis. Prometheus Books: Buffalo, NY 1992
• Lutz Wagner: Graphologische Forshungen. Wilhelm Braumuller, Stuttgart 1973
• W H Muller & Alice Enskat: Graphologische Diagnostik. Verlag Hans Huber: Stuttgart 1973
• Erika Karohs: Step By Step System of Handwriting Analysis: Pebble Beach, CA:2007.

jonathon 19:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A big thanks!

Thank you so very much for the barnstar for my work on the Jat people page. I have been thrilled to find that there are a number of people out there appreciating what I have been trying to do to - it has been lonely and disheartening at times wrangling with the fanatics. Hopefully now, with the help of the Administrators and some level-headed contributors the page will become an interesting, useful, and factual account of Jats and their history, something all Jats can be proud of. You have made my day - thanks again. Sincerely, John Hill 22:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Sorry - I've been away (then embroiled in all sorts of controversy). I'll take a look in tomorrow and write up some stuff for you. Midnight here now :) I've not forgotten! - Alison ☺ 07:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Vandal Whacking Stick"

Thanks for your notes. No, I haven't noticed the "vandal whacking stick". Please let me know where I can find it - it might come in handy at times!!! :^) Cheers, John Hill 21:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow! Thanks!

That looks very handy indeed! Thanks ever so much - it's just what I need! What a hoot! Cheers and all best wishes, John Hill 06:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smile

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[edit] Tag

Thanks for the smiley. No I wasn't upset. It was just a bad edit summary. Gnanapiti 17:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] test

[edit] Hey

You're welcome to steal as many of my userboxes as you wish. ;) Josh 17:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Blocked

This account has now been blocked from editing per this editor's own request. This block is not to be construed as having any reflection upon this editors behaviour nor standing in the community; it's just a bad case of Wikiholism. I don't normally do this as it's somewhat against policy.

take it easy on your wikibreak! - Alison ☺ 18:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hello

hey please dont show your smartness by editing the articale on sangrur.i dont think u know much about the place .. so please dont interfer in the additions made by others and please stay away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuraj26 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Woo - hoo!

My block's about to expire! I'm so happy :-P ReluctantPhilosopher@Talk 10:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC) timestamp test 121.241.96.5 16:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Damn, 90 more minutes to go :( ReluctantPhilosopher@Talk 16:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Wikisource

Dear ReluctantPhilosopher! Can you help me with transliteration of Devanagari (to UTF-8) on German Wikisource-Page s:de:Seite:Nanak der Stifter der Sikh-Religion.djvu/13? If you need the context, I can translate the German in English. --Balû 07:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

(Copy of Message on Balu's talk-page) Yeah sure, but you'll have to do the translation into English first... ReluctantPhilosopher@Talk 08:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The sentence with the first Devanagri reads: "This motivates Rae Bular to impress Kalu, father of Nanak, who disrespects his son because of his moony nature, that his son is a great man and that he gots exalted through him (here is the Devanagari) which make no sense to Kalu, who halfheartedly answers, that only god knows gods matter.

The second sentence: The family regards him as mad and starts to lament about this bad luck (Devanagari, says the original text).

Can you now transliterate the Devanagari? --Balû 17:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It reads "Ehu mahapurukh hai kalu tu bhi nihal hoa". Is that what you wanted me to do? ReluctantPhilosopher@Talk 03:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The second sentence reads: "Tab sara parvar sabh kutumb vediyaan ka laga jhuran aakhan lage jo vadaa haif hua jo kalu da putra diwana hoa". I'm less certain about this second sentence as it's a very old dialect of Punjabi; I transliterated as it appeared to sound to me. ReluctantPhilosopher@Talk 03:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

no, that's not what I wanted. In Wikisource we write the original text from scanned pages in wikitext, so I need the Devanagari-text here in the wiki, sth. like this: उपयोजक. Do you understand me? --Balû 05:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thank you for the birthday wishes. You made my day. Take care, buddy! Josh 05:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Evolution

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[edit] Adoption

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[edit] Adoption

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[edit] Talk Page Header

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[edit] Talk:Rorschach inkblot test

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[edit] the 123 deal page

Thanks for updating the page, but since it is a current event it is necessary to keep the update tag. I restored the update tag,

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[edit] Thanks

Thaks for your smile but isn't it a kind of spamming.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 17:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it was inappropriate but ask an admin about it.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 16:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Namaste

Thanks for the smile:) I see that you are a Hindu, cool. I am a Progressive Christian and am considering becoming an initiate into Universal Sufism. I love hinduism. I love all other faiths:) The fundamentals of all of our faiths are the same. I pray people will start to see that. Love and light.--SJP 17:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I love Sufism, especially Universal Sufism. I am praying about wether I should become an initiate. I am probably going to become one. Hazrat Inayat Khan, a indian sufi master, has influenced me a lot lately. I love him! I am as well a "product" of many faiths, though my faith is still Christianity. Shalom:)--SJP 13:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Yea my userboxes do exhibit contradictions. I don't particularly believe that Hindutva or the BJP are fascists in practicality, as they do not exhibit the features fascists from history do in that they are democratic, they do not believe in seizure of state power, they are culturally nationalistic whereas all fascists are usually racially nationalistic and I really don't expect Rajnath Singh to be the next Francisco Franco. I also exhibit a personal belief that Hinduism is very special, that Bharat is the Hindu rashtra and that revolutionary conservatism is required to preserve the outstanding Hindu culture/religion which has survived so long under so many oppressions, hostilities and massacres suffered by its members. Why did the Gujarat riots affect you, there has been no proven links to the BJP also the fact that Congress instigated more mob violence in 1984. In my opinion a larger quantity, so to speak, of equality will exist under Hindutva in India than the anti-Hindu bias and pseudo-secularism that is prevalent at the moment and largely accepted by everyone. Hindu workers are butchered in my home state of Kerala by machete armed Marxist or Islamic mobs (like Gujarat riots in smaller scale) relatively frequently with the Marxist government and the media turning a purposeful blind eye to the situation, and I expect anti-Hindu violence to be prevalent elsewhere in India but in smaller amounts but never well documented and suppressed by pseudo-secularists. Also Hindutva law reform will make the legal system more equal in its treatment of everyone, though it is justifiably tailored to the majority Hindus. I think we can objectively say that India under secularist Congress is no means egalitarian, perhaps it is in the formal sense, in which case it can also be said Hindutva shares a few features with defined Fascist ideology (anti-communism, cultural nationalism) but similarly in some amount all right leaning parties in that way share elements with fascism, it is just reverse simplistic McCarthyism used by the left, but yes, you cant pinpoint Indian secularist political ideology with not supporting equality (despite the actual reality). I am slightly biased in favor of Hinduism who I believe to be without equal among current religions and much more than religion and I feel offended and disrespected that Hindutva is likened to fascism. I will not let my personal beliefs into Wikipedia however, unless I can find sources to support it of course. India is unique, has a unique situation and Hinduism is special to me, for the rest of the world I support formal equality, so there I admit I am a bit of a hypocrite but exceptions always exist. B Nambiar (talk) 11:36, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Yep, two wrongs don't make a right. Though it is important not to judge Hindutva by the actions of BJP, the Gujarat pogroms and some Hindu mobs, violence isn't a part of Hindutva and I am not happy to hear that speakers on Hindutva reminded you of fascism but not surprised. Yes Hindutva does involve dehumanization of the other i.e Muslims, but rather dehumanization of foreign ideologies more precisely, but dehumanization of the other is obviously necessary to push Hindu nationalism just like smoking is made to be considered harmful to reject it, it is logical. Hindutva claims especially by Sri Sita Ram Goyal, are very logical. The fact is that increasing foreign influence in India diminishes Hindu culture/religion(Hindu rashtra)and reduces the rights of the majority, and more instances of anti-Hindu activity result such as terrorist attacks and mob violence. Based on past events it can be said Hindus cop it much more than they dish out, and anti-Hindu bias is so prevalent and easy to add to that Hindus barely react to it and suffer the bias, with the ones standing up to it criticized as extremists too simplistically. The possible results of Hindutva is not too dramatic, a quick change of divisive laws which can be abused, the rightful recognition of India as the Hindu rasthra, more liberal economic reforms, more proactive diplomacy in international matters and hopefully removal pseudo-secular bias in education and an easy to view and acted upon position on terrorism. Negative externalities will result with Hindutva, human nature, but it occurs as a result of all types of politics. At least with Hindutva it will be more overt, than hidden ulterior motives hard to place in other types of political ideologies. Again Bharat is special, from an objective standpoint I claim, and for unique India, unique Hindutva is my political choice and unlikely to change. I believe I agree with what you have said and can still justify my views. Hindutva will not lead to gas chambers by any means, the situation and ideology is much different, though it might change immigration patterns. You believe human rights are under threat with Hindutva I gather, to which I think that human rights overall will improve in India, as a result of less anti-Hinduism, although it is likely that minorities will lose some human rights. Just to add, I have faith in Hindutva(BJP) economic policy and human development index largely correlates with per capita GDP, with the exception of Kerala strangely, so I believe Hindutva should overall benefit India more than other political parties.B Nambiar (talk) 14:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] About Article Sonia Gandhi

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Oh, I've blocked Inder for a week. All of his socks have been indefinitely blocked. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kendriya Vidyalaya

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[edit] Userboxes

I noticed that you have a lot of userboxes. How did you get so many and where did you find the codes for all that? Prottos007 (talk) 02:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for help with an Indian politics article

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[edit] Hi ReluctantPhilosopher -- about Wikiquette alert...

Thank you, I appreciate your looking in on the matter at WQA here.

Please see my reply to you and comment further if you have time to look into the issues I raised.

I saw that you had quite a go of it here. I think WQA should work a lot better than it does, but of course it requires looking into a lot of detail before commenting, otherwise things can just get worse.

Thanks,

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[edit] Free will

As someone who has edited recently on the free will talk page, When you get a chance, can you look at the additions to the talk page by LoveMonkey? I've already had a revert war with him on the talk page, and I've decide that, as long as it's on the talk page, I'm not going to worry about it, but if you have any thoughts on this, they would be appreciated. Either he's way off the mark, or so brilliant it's beyond me. Edhubbard —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.169.117.225 (talk) 22:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting information about Sonia Gandhi

Hi Amit, Please check the below link for interesting information about Sonia Gandhi. That might help to change your highly one sided approach towards her.

http://www.hvk.org/articles/0698/0016.html

Thanks Inder —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inder315 (talk • contribs) 08:25, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NYC Meetup: June 1, 2008

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[edit] current

thankyou so much... one more ques i have in my mind, if can clear my doubt....

sometimes why do we feel current even with our shoes or slippers on, though we do not have any direct contact with earth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovindhawan (talk • contribs) 08:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that ... I think it could happen because either the slippers are wet/moist or you're wearing leather shoes which sometimes have metal nails nails in them. ReluctantPhilosopher (talk) 09:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi Anurag pandey 001 (talk) 09:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)