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This archive contains messages from December 21, 2007, onward.

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[edit] Your fix to Template:Non-free use rationale

Hi, could you please revisit this? your fix seems to have killed others, like Image:AOV Adult Movie channel.jpg. --Storkk (talk) 16:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

It's actually broken the article link for every other image - I was just about to post on this. Many thanks, alex.muller (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Oops. I reverted. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polbot Question

Please let me know when Polbot is approved for adding F-URs to radio and TV station logos, cause I would have a few that you can test it on:) - NeutralHomer T:C 17:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Early deletions

Hi, Quadell. I usually delete images anywhere from five minutes to a couple hours early only if there's one or two images in that category. I'll be more careful in the future. east.718 at 23:42, December 21, 2007

[edit] Happy Holidays


[edit] Non-free use disputed for Image:U2 atyclb.png

Thanks for uploading Image:U2 atyclb.png. Unfortunately, I think that you have not provided a proper rationale for using this image under "fair use". Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. Note that the image description page must include the exact name or a link to each article the image is used in and a separate rationale for each one. (If a link is used, automated processes may improperly add the related tag to the image. Please change the fair use template to refer to the exact name, if you see this warning.)

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted after seven days according to our Criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

The image needs a rationale for each article it is used in. --Rockfang (talk) 07:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
You're correct. I didn't upload the image, though; I only shrank it to comply with NFCC#3. I'm not really that interested in keeping it, to be honest. – Quadell (talk) (random) 20:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polbot

Hi Quadell.

I've finished the reversion of Polbot and fixed the wrong reverts. Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 20:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] There?

If you're there can you put a temp stop on the guy User:DenCA I've had a chance to talk to him? Thx. Wiggy! (talk) 02:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I was watching a movie. Looks like the situation is taken care of. Happy holidays! – Quadell (talk) (random) 04:07, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Thx in any case. Good movie? Popcorn? Wiggy! (talk) 05:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amusing edit

I found this edit amusing for some strange reason - hey, at least this person is cognizant of WP:BLP! Videmus Omnia Talk 07:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invite

Century Tower

As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject University of Florida, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of University of Florida. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! ~~~~


[edit] {{Q-box}}

Very nice!! Wow, that is so much simpler... even I understood it. ;-)

Might I suggest that you include a link to List of colors or Web colors though? I found these articles to be quite useful in determining the "codes" I should use for the various colors. Cheers--DO11.10 (talk) 19:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Great idea! I did this. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Andreas Papandreou.jpg

Season's Greetings Quadell. I apologise for the intrusion but since you are an image expert and an admin, could you please tell me, if you can, what exactly happened to this image I uploaded. It had a proper fair use rationale and I got no courtesy deletion warning. I can't even find any deletion records but maybe you can. The only reason I know about it, is from this diff. Thanks again. Dr.K. (talk) 00:48, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. But upon further investigation I found the admin responsible and I will ask directly. Thanks again. Dr.K. (talk) 00:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Literacy.PNG

Could you make a better image? Literacy is a serious matter.Tonytypoon (talk) 09:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

No, I can't. I'm really not a graphic artist. You may want to ask one of our many talented and prolific Wikipedian artists though. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image Proposal

User:Carcharoth suggested I contact you about some ideas I've had for how we handle fair-use image issues. I've set up a proposal page here: User:Mbisanz/ImageSystemProposal and was wondering if you had any comments or know coding well enough to help implement such a suggestion. Mbisanz (talk) 06:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I commented there. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Tejero golpe.jpg

I transferred this to Commons and it was deleted by an admin the same day, evidently not realizing that csd i8 requires a waiting period. Commons also promptly deleted the license the image was under and the image. Can you restore the image locally and revert the license back to fair use for me? :) -Nard 00:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it's been taken care of. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Timothy Ryan

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Timothy Ryan. . .

Resolved. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

Thank you for your strong support in my RfA, and thoughtful comments. The whole thing was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because it's the holiday season and there are plenty of off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a good New Year, --Elonka 21:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Alhaznawi video aljazeera.jpg

Resolved. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Nashiri.jpg

Resolved. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IFD debate

On the December 27 log, there are a bunch of MO##.gif images. Do they all need deleting? Maxim(talk) 17:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Yup. I'm doing that now. – Quadell (talk) (random) 17:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I noticed you stopped for some reason, a bug or something or whatever. I made a list in my userspace, guess I don't need it. :-p Maxim(talk) 17:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Mzoudi.jpg

Resolved. – Quadell (talk) (random) 22:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:BJBot

This bot appears to have listed many images for deletion at both January 1 and January 2, in some cases with the author defending the image at only one of those dates. Just a head's up. -Nard 12:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Rifleman 82 seems to be taking care of it! Cheers. -Nard 14:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A giggle

See the history of Image:Seal of Freetown, Massachusetts.gif for a giggle. The user has been edit warring with a bot for months over which fair use template to use. The only thing that motivated me to fix the licensing was getting tired of seeing this in my watchlist every day :P 21:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image meandmybf.jpg

You closed this as "keep" when there was zero consensus to keep, and four out of five users wanted it deleted. Why? Exploding Boy (talk) 01:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I explained why at the top of the closure debate, just below the {{ifd top}}. – Quadell (talk) (random) 02:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I read it, but it's not a very good explanation. Every user who commented favoured deletion, save the original uploader (and, not coincidentally, subject of the photo). If you'd looked at the relevant article talk pages, you would have seen that users also rejected the inclusion of the image on those pages. In the summary you gave on the image page itself, you state that "consensus was to keep," when that is clearly not the case. Consensus was to delete; you made the decision to keep apparently alone and against consensus. Exploding Boy (talk) 02:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Image deletion debates are not mere votes, as I'm sure you know. No amount of !votes can override policy, and there is simply no policy that could lead to the image's deletion. If you feel the "keep" decision was in error, you can take the issue to WP:DRV if you like. – Quadell (talk) (random) 02:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Image:Meandmybf.jpg. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Exploding Boy (talk) 04:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:UndercoverMosquekill.jpg was linked to another article, so the delete rationale given was not valid

I see you deleted the image. Did you know that this one was used on another page, and as such was not in violation? It was in Abdullah_el-Faisal until you deleted it http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abdullah_el-Faisal&diff=182000719&oldid=180581750. As such, I am requesting you restore it so that it can return to article Abdullah_el-Faisal. If you do not mind, I can restore it myself. -- Avi (talk) 04:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid this use fails WP:NFCC#1, in that it was a non-free image used to illustrate a living subject. – Quadell (talk) (random) 10:28, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ray_J_-_Un-Kut.JPG on User:Quadell/ifd_precedents

you have this marked as kept, but image was deleted with deletion summary "deleted per ifd". Taemyr (talk) 14:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it was originally kept, but it was relisted. Investigating. . . – Quadell (talk) (random)
Looks like the work of a bot at Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_December_24#Image:Ray_J_-_Un-Kut.JPG. Anyway, I restored the image, removed the IFD tag and placed the image back in the Un-Kut article. That is the only article I see that I removed the image from even though you mention in your IFD closing that the image is used in two articles. I also closed the Dec. 24 IFD discussion generated by the bot. -Regards Nv8200p talk 16:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! – Quadell (talk) (random) 18:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New image stuff

Would you be interested in helping out at the image trial of Wikipedia:Task of the Day? See the talk page for more, including a section on bot operators. Carcharoth (talk) 19:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't really work well with others on that sort of thing. But thanks for the invite! – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "censorship through the back door, if you'll pardon the expression"

I just sprayed coffee out my nose. Thanks for the morning laugh! :-D --Stormie (talk) 20:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't resist. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Could a screenshot of Melissa Theuriau qualify as fair use since it depicts her performing her profession? I think I tried using a screenshot before, but didn't use that rationale, do you think that would apply using {{Non-free television screenshot}}? Or perhaps a different rationale? Jonjames1986 (talk) 18:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid not. Screenshots can only be used to identify the program, or in "critical commentary" (such a discussing why a specific screenshot is notable). I'm afraid there's really no way around WP:NFCC#1. – Quadell (talk) (random) 03:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Another question, what if I got permission from the copyright holder to publish the image? I'm pretty sure that one of the options for licensing an image is that the copyright holder gave permission. Would that be permissible?
--Jonjames1986 (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Boy, I hate to bring you nothing but bad news! But no, even if the copyright holder gives permission for Wikipedia (alone) to use it, Wikipedia won't accept the image. It's counter-intuitive, I know -- but Wikipedia is a "free" encyclopedia, so it's important to us that anyone be able to reuse all our content. For this reason, we can only use an image if other websites can also use the image, even for commercial purposes, without asking the copyright-holder permission.
But there's a ray of hope. If the copyright holder is willing to allow anyone to use the image for any purpose (including modification and commercial reuse), then the image is "free" and we can use it. Many groups, especially large companies, refuse to allow this, but smaller companies and individuals sometimes do. If you can find a Flickr user who has photographed Ms. Theuriau, you have a decent chance. You can find Wikipedia's helpfile on requesting this at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. A guy named Videmus Omnia has had terrific luck doing this, and has written his own "how-to" at User:Videmus Omnia/Requesting free content. Good luck! – Quadell (talk) (random) 13:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you delete Image:UndercoverMosquekill.jpg

The discussion was in favor of keep!--CltFn (talk) 14:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I gave my reasoning at the top of the discussion, just below the {{ifd top}} tag. The issue wasn't how many people wanted to keep the image; the issue was whether the image violated our policies at WP:NFCC#3 and #8. We would have to change our policies there in order to keep the image. – Quadell (talk) (random) 15:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hi

Another couple of requests for Commons :) Could you alternately undelete Image:KarlJaspers.jpg for me (or since the image is copyrighted copy the text of the various revisions for me) and re-delete Image:Yuliya.jpg for me (which was just recently undeleted so I could fix the licensing at Commons). Thanks :) -Nard 15:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Done, and done! – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Suggestions for name disambiguation

Hi there. The list of names for disambig'n is almost empty. Is it appropriate to ask you to run your bot again? --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes! I've been waiting for you fine people to finish off Batch 1. Perhaps this evening I'll run it to create the second (and, probably, final) batch. Quadell (talk) (random) 17:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Sounds splendid. Thanks. No rush, I'm sure. btw I've contributed perhaps 1% of the work here - wouldn't want to misrepresent myself. --AndrewHowse (talk) 19:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks much - very prompt of you. One subpage done already. --AndrewHowse (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Yay! I figured Q would go quicker than M. Quadell (talk) (random) 23:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Seal Phitsanulok.png)

Resolved. – Quadell (talk) (random) 13:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Seal Singburi.png)

Resolved. – Quadell (talk) (random) 13:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Please protect this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high_definition_optical_disc_formats

Thank you. ---- Theaveng (talk) 22:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your query on WP:RFAr

Quadell, you might wish to have a look at my response to your query at WP:RFAr#Statement by ChrisO. Hope this sheds some light on Cla68's addition of Jayjg to the case. -- ChrisO (talk) 19:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. – Quadell (talk) (random) 22:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] block

Perhaps, you didnt see my question on my talk page about this strange block. I'm interested in finding out details about how this happened, i.e. who reported me me for this slight technical and accidental lapse, instead of letting me know so I could correct it? Its seems very petty. Thanks.

"Opps, I just used the edit summary to state my reasons, since there was no discussion about the change. Who reported me to the enforcement board anyway? A simple note to me would have sufficed for me to discuss this on the talk page. Ironically, now I cant discuss it, until after my block expires." Giovanni33 (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I reported you to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Giovanni33-John Smith's. I noticed the situation, since I have New antisemitism on my watchlist. (There was a dispute about one of the images, and image work is where I spend most of my time.) If you're wondering if there were secret groups conspiring against you, then I hate to disappoint you. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 21:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok. I have to conclude that there is insufficient evidence to include you (at this time) in the vast right-wing conspiracy. But, I'll maintain a healthy vigilance. heheGiovanni33 (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, RlevseTalk 22:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's the reason that Jayjg's name was added as a party to this case: [1]. I believe that was sufficient. I'm going to readd his name. Thanks. Cla68 (talk) 00:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I added him as a party before the case opened. Look at the talk page here and then try to tell me that he's not involved: Talk:Israeli-Palestinian history denial. As you said, I'm not the only one calling for him to be added. I'm correct to add him again. I left a note on Rlevse's talk page. As the clerk, if he agrees with you, he can remove his name. Cla68 (talk) 00:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Hm, it looks like Jayjg's last edit to that page was back in March. But yes, the clerk should certainly decide whether his name should be added or not. – Quadell (talk) (random) 00:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
His last edit to the article was July. Here's a related article with more recent activity [2]. If the clerk removes his name, I won't readd it. Cla68 (talk) 01:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
There was an incident only two weeks ago involving Jayjg accidentally posting a partisan canvassing message to WikiEN-l, exposing what is no doubt the tip of an iceberg on both sides - see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration&diff=prev&oldid=183457247. Cla68 cited it in the AN/I discussion that led to this arbitration. I agree with his view that it's a significant issue and I'm detailing it in evidence for the ArbCom. It would certainly make sense to add him as a party since I'll be requesting that his conduct be reviewed. I'm happy to add myself as a party if necessary, though I've had no involvement with the vast majority of the disputed articles. And don't forget that you should also be abiding by the injunction not to "edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this case." :-) Or do you want to become a participant? -- ChrisO (talk) 01:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Reverting to remove a comment (when the page says not to comment) is not the same as commenting myself. – Quadell (talk) (random) 01:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


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