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Isn't the last paragraph personal conclusion and/or original research? The best that can be said is "Some historians believe ... blah blah blah", and provide citations to where they say it. - Vedexent 21:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. As soon as I saw it I came to the talk to see how such an edit survived. If someone wants to rewrite and source it that's fine but I'm removing it for now. --JGGardiner 05:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
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I'm going to start working on this article(Laser Pico}29.20.006
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Carthaginian Peace- A link should be put in this article to Carthaginian peace and be discussed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.226.40.94 (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Since the map depicted in the article refers to ancient times can it name SPAIN as HISPANIA (the then name of the region) just as France is referred to as GAUL (in fact it should be GALLIA). This way people will also get information about ancient names of these regions. --Apoorv Khurasia 12.04.07
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Removed Vandalism/Immaturity that changed the Punic wars to the Stupid Wars. Also, I believe the bold of the second paragraph is unnecessary/incorrect and would recommend someone else look at it and change it if I'm right. I usually don't bother with editing wikipedia, but immaturity annoys me. 216.120.184.166 (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
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In 149 BC, in an attempt to pacify Carthage, Rome made a series of escalating demands, one being that 300 hundred men of upper class stature had to give away their son as a hostage, ending with the near-impossible demand that the city be demolished and re-built away from the coast, deeper into Africa. The Carthaginians refused this last demand and Rome declared the Third Punic War. Carthage finally realized something, they realized what it meant to truly fight for their country. Before they were a mercantile country that sought wealth above most other things, but now the Carthiginians fought with a zeal found in Rome in Hannibal's time. They made thousands of makeshift weapons in a short amount of time, even using womens' hair for catapult strings. The three hundred Carthiginian council men were being attacked for their cowardice and Carthage finally found their fighting spirit. However, it was too little too late. They embarassed the first Roman army, but the second army, under command of Scipio Ameilianus, made their mark. Scipio Aemilianus besieged the city for three years before he breached the walls, sacked the city, and burned Carthage to the ground. Scipio Aemilianus burned the city so systematically that now it is hard to find any evidence of Carthiginian culture. Scipio Aemilianus was said to be crying intensely, when confronted and asked why he said he feared it would one day happen to Rome. Thus, this war ended another world power and changed our culture as we know it, if Carthage won who would know what would happen to the modern world. The surviving Carthaginians were sold into slavery, and Carthage ceased to exist, until Octavian rebuilt the city as a Roman veterans' colony over a century later. |
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Somebody please rewrite. This attempt at flowery language is both a failure as prose and as history. --Dustek 14:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Cleaned it up a little bit. I think the anecdote about Scipio and the proceeding line on Cato aren't that relevant, and better dealt with on their own pages. Also, there's some British/American spelling inconsistencies (esp. 'theater'/'theatre') but I'm not sure which should be changed. Leliro19 01:09, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
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Do we really need this image published twice in the article? —Cesar Tort 13:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
