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[edit] Definition

Publishing is considerably more than "distributing" - which is a publishing trade term for selling (wholesale) books which the seller did not necessarily publish.

[edit] Rewriting

Well, over to the rest of the world. I think this is now a reasonable structure and sufficiently informative, but. . .

David91

Publishing should also be connected to the authors as well. Like from an author's point of view, getting a piece of work can be seriously challenging. Or even the vast amount of steps it takes to get something published in this day and age. Firetoadbob

[edit] Question ...

"Publisher" redirects here, but I don't see, in this page, any specific information about the job of a publisher (the individual, not the company)...

[edit] Alternative Publishing / Great American Novel

I read somewhere once that there are other countries in the world besides North America - in those countries do they also write the Great American Novel?? Philip Howard 15:44, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Headline text

Wha does publishimng really entail?. Is there more than meets the eye?

[edit] Rename article

The subject Publishing is much greater than just printed works. If the intention of this article is to refer to this subsection of publishing, I suggest renaming it appropriately, and keeping the article Publishing for the coverage of publishing as a whole. This is a good place to discuss this. Stephen B Streater


[edit] Failed GA

Since too many issues weren't given an answer on the talk page and too the text is too ethnocentric, the article will not, for now, be promoted to GA. Lincher 03:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] organization of article

Many of the articles covered in various sections of Wikipedia are related to publishing, and many of the editors are in some way involved with the topic. This is therefore a key article, and we shoud all think what is needed before we each start rewriting small portions.

For example, I wonder whether there is any point in the lengthy paragraph on Academic publishing, when there is a separate comprehensive article, and there are not similar sections for all the similar specializations of "literary" publishing. In particular, material is obviously needed on electronic publishing, as the leed recognizes.

DGG 01:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] continued

Although this is apparently intendedd as a general survey of publishing, the orientation is entirely to:

  • print
  • conventional techniques
  • small publishers
  • getting published as a literary author.

Perhaps instead of renaming the page, it would be better to expand this one, and move some of the specialized references to new pages. I ask for discussion, especially a term for a page devoted to the process of getting published, from the author's point of view.DGG 02:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I feel that there is a place for an umbrella Publishing article which covers all aspects of publishing to some extent eg books, magazine, games, videos, music, as well as regional variations. Each specific aspect could then be covered in more detail in its own article. This would probably entail the current article being moved to a more specific name, and a new (briefer) umbrella article being put in its place. Stephen B Streater 09:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Right--but can you think of a good name?DGG 05:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
How about "Publishing process" and a new article for "Publisher"? Jkaplan 18:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
They are alternate titles, but I don't see how they distinguish.

Commercial publishing for this one, perhaps? and keep Publishing for the general? DGG 07:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] academic publishing

is publishing in connection with the formal organization of research and higher education. It does not include all contributions to knowledge. WP is not written & revised in this manner, and is not connected with any program, and is contibuted to be whomever thinks it suitable. This is about as non-academic as you can get, and--for many of us--this is the attraction--being able to contribute our knowedge without the constraints of more conventional arrangements. The general concept is called open publishing or open source--usage doe not seem to have stabilized. Almost all such publishing is as a matter of course open access, but that's a separate concept. Don't let's weaken WP by thinking of it as part of the academic world--there's another project aimed at a relatively academic version.DGG 04:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why no history section?

Seems like the history of the publishing industry, as well as recent history and impact of the internet on the publishing industry should be here Rycanada 12:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "The Book World?"

Recently, this article was amended to include the phrase "The Book World" as another way of referring to the book publishing industry. I, for one, have never heard this phrase used in this way before, but I do not wish to simply revert an established user's change without attempting to asses consensus. So, has any one else heard or used the phrase Book World to refer to the publishing industry? Should this change be included in the article? (Full disclosure: whether or not Publishing is included in the Book World DAB page essentially hinges on this point, so if editors think that "Book World" should not be included in the article, I'll take that as a strong indication that the DAB page should not link here.) Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 03:21, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Charlie, instead of creating 3 places for this discussion, refer them to the single discussion already occurring at Talk:Book World. ∞ΣɛÞ² (τ|c) 05:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
With respect, though this discussion is related to the other one, it is also separate, since one is about the content of this article, and the other is about a DAB page. I find it conceivable that, for example, editors may wish to remove the words "book world" from the article, but keep the link from the DAB page anyway, or some other combination of the two, and thus I brought up a separate discussion here. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 06:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appropriateness of images?? - Publishing is DIFFERENT from printing and bookselling

Neither of the images in this article relate to publishing as such.

Printing is often confused with publishing. Yet neither implies the latter. (Printed works can be private i.e. not published. And published works need not be printed - they can be hand-written or e-documents.)

Also, the text assumes the standard model of commercial publishing. It seems to ignore self-publishing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbibby (talkcontribs) 09:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] external links

I removed links to blogs, commercial promotion, lists, and links that were not about the topic of publishing but were lists of publishers, courses, etc., per the tag (which I removed) and WP:EL. Cheers Geologyguy 19:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Web publishing

"Web publishing" redirects to this article, but there's no information in this article about what Web publishing is (and, in fact, it has little or nothing to do with publishing as a whole). So... is there a plan? Did the person who redirected it have something in mind? -Miskaton (talk) 23:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


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