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What about Fahrenheit 9/11? I know it's controversial, and although I share his view, it fits the definition.. Samohyl Jan 18:03, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, it's unarguably an attempt to convince people of a specific politial point, and it certainly uses "appeal to one's emotions", but it's less clear that "it includes significant and deliberate falsehoods, and/or omits so many pertinent truths that it becomes highly misleading". Given the pejorative sense of the term "propaganda", it is difficult to apply the term in an NPOV way, especially when the work is not government-sponsored. I note that Category:Propaganda films has no description, which makes it almost impossible to determine whether it applies. Bovlb 16:24, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Your comment is very typical of Wikiganda. By insisting that a film be "government-sponsored," you define the term narrowly around your own perspective in order eliminate anything you don't like. If you are able to place Farenheit 9/11, with its blatant falsehoods, outside the definition of propaganda, then the term has no meaning, and the topic should be eliminated.Scott Adler 00:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Birth of a Nation 2 Important Points 3 How about the movie Obsession? 4 ???

[edit] Birth of a Nation

A propaganda film is a film, often a documentary, produced for the express purpose of propaganda: convincing the viewer of a certain political point.

Birth of a Nation was not produced for this purpose. It was used by the Ku Klux Klan to recruit, but reinvigorating the Klan would've been a very hard to achieve goal, even though it was achieved. To state that Birth was created for Klan indoctrination is a falsehood. I was thinking of removing the reference, but instead I think I'll edit to keep the reference but explain Griffiths purpose. Ud terrorist 21:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Important Points

During the time of the motion picture not only was propaganda being used but also racism was going on! Clearly racism has been a probelem since the 1800's. When the emancipation proclamation and slave codes went into effecct whites have treated the balcks wrong so when movie making came along they found they can take their anger on them out and express to other people how afican american's are a bad race of people. The African Americans also made there own movies too and expressed their points and in a way motion pictures had an effect on black history month. It is not only African americans that get desctimated against it seems to be who ever America is fighting against at the time ex. world war II the bad guys were German, Now the villains are arabs ever since 9-11. People make mistakes and they do things wrong but we shouldnt knock down a whole race of people because someone with in there race made a wrong choice or bad decisoin. Thank you for taking the time to read this and if you have any other questions feel free to ask. ~ annonomyous

Perhaps, then, the terrorists deserve a free ride? No movies about their culture, or why they turn to violence? I've seen Arab culture up close, and it is incredibly tribal and violent. But we shouldn't say that in film because it would make them sad? Scott Adler 00:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How about the movie Obsession?

It is being shown on college campuses across the country and uses a lot of propaganda tools such as fear, stereotyping (the cover of the movie has a barbaric desert looking man on it) and this movie is controversial because some call it Islamaphobic. Interestingly enough, it is also being promoted a lot by pro-Israeli groups in America and on college campuses by Republicans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.124.228 (talk) 02:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit]  ???

I don't understand this line: For more discussion of propaganda and some examples of it in short films from the United States, see the 10-volume CD-ROM collection Our Secret Century. For a satirical subversion of the United States military's 1960s propaganda regarding the safety of radioactive materials, see The Atomic Cafe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.109.27.20 (talk) 21:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC)