Talk:Pro/ENGINEER

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License request failed for feature PROE_986895: -25:License server does not support this version of this feature.

Sounds like someone needs to convert their license or upgrade their license server or something. --ssd 2 July 2005 14:36 (UTC)

Yup, that sounds like the issue. --Alphachimp ^talk 21:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 History 2 Fair use rationale for Image:ProE Splash screen.jpg 3 External links 4 Vista and x64 Support

[edit] History

It would be nice to have a history of this product. Right now there isn't even a date for the first release, and the CAD and Parametric Technology Corporation articles give conflicting information. --S Roper 14:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ProE Splash screen.jpg

Image:ProE Splash screen.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] External links

I've removed all but the official site link here for discussion:

• MCAD Central - Online Community of Pro/ENGINEER users - discussion group EL XXX, not focused on ProE
• Olaf Corten's Online Pro/ENGINEER utilities free, ad-supported. could be shilling for consulting services.
• Pro/E non profit organization with jobs & PTC tips, tricks and announcements Where is contact info? taxpayer id ?
• The Pro/E FAQ - Tips and tricks for Pro/E users low-function copy of company page???
• Free Pro/ENGINEER Tips and Tutorial (Pro/E 2001, Wildfire 1.0, Wildfire 2.0, Wildfire 3.0, Wildfire 4.0) Who sponsors this? No real-world contact info.
• Pro/E & PTC User Community This says it's the "official users group" for ProE.

These are all pretty questionable links per WP:EL, and some look like WP:SPAM--Ronz 15:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I have inserted comments on the links, partially to compare with what external links are on other pages. DCDuring 17:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

PTC/User is billed as "The official user organization for people who use Pro/ENGINEER®, Windchill®, Arbortext®, Mathcad®, ProductView™ and other PTC products." I have been using Pro/ENGINEER for about 11 years and this site is a huge wealth of knowledge, either in their email archives or the many seasoned users who participate on the site. PTC does monitor the threads on PTC/User and I personally have had discussions with PTC employees as a result of questions I have posed. Posting this link in "External links" does not constitute SPAM in my opinion. Ditto for Olaf Corten's website. Though it is ad-supported, he does a lot of work with creating benchmarks for computer setups to gauge if a system is working at its potential with Pro/E. Olaf has a significant prescense, or he did when I was active a few years back, on the PTC/User site. My 2¢. ♫ Bitch and Complain Sooner ♫ 17:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I would have guessed at those being the sites most worth keeping, but forums aren't normally linkable, as I read WP:EL. They would have to have other worthwhile content at least. If you take out the forum, it all looks like advertising or restricted use. Please correct me if I'm wrong. DCDuring 18:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I'd rather have the links hold closely to WP:EL, and encourage editors to add references to the article. This article seems to attract a lot of spam and low-quality links, while the content of the article itself remains almost unchanged. --Ronz 19:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vista and x64 Support

More information on this would be nice, similar to the Solidworks page. Thanks Tmaull 18:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

If you're waiting for some sales-rep to contribute any edits at all, let alone something useful, you will be disappointed. I've never seen it happen from any company. We're on our own with this.Goatchurch (talk) 09:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)