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Hong Kong is not considered part of mainland China, and Hong Kong is responsible for its own economic, immigration and trade affairs, which are not the business of Peking and have nothing to do with the government in Peking.

PRC claims over Taiwan and numerous islands, but has never exercised any power over them. "Mainland China" would be a better way to reflects which's in part of which. -- 19:52, December 7, 2004 (UTC)

Hong Kong is definitely part of People's Republic of China. The uses of the terms have already been discussed elsewhere. I noted that you have attempted to start a discussion anyway and please refrain from changing it all over wikipedia as that article says. -Hlaw 04:25, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

In terms of sovereignty Hong Kong is part of PRC, like Guam and Puerto Rico are to the United States. Nonetheless under special arrangements of "One Country, Two Systems" of being an "SAR". PRC's ministries in Peking have no jurisdiction and power over Hong Kong affairs. Hong Kong is effectively an independent entity on economic, immigration, trade and many other affairs. In this sense, listing Hong Kong under PRC would induce confusions. Rather, "mainland China" and "Hong Kong" would be much more clear and convenience to readers. -- 09:19, December 8, 2004 (UTC)

Your understanding above is flawed. Hong Kong is part of PRC in every aspect. Article 1 of the Basic Law : HKSAR is an inalienable part of the PRC, fullstop. It is meaningless to say this is only the case for foreign affairs and defence. Hong Kong should be listed under the PRC as a general rule.

Hong Kong's separate participation in international organizations where memberships are not limited to states, as authorized under Chapter VII of the Basic Law of the HKSAR of the PRC, would not defy the constitutional, practical and widely accepted fact that Hong Kong is part of PRC. Only in the specific circumstances when enumerating a list of membership for such organizations where Hong Kong participate as a separate entity should Hong Kong not listed under China.

Regardless of the above, edits should not be made to change the names of PRC and ROC with your own style, and to strip reference China as the country over Hong Kong, without any regard to the conventions that others have discussed and reached over the years. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese) etc. It is such edits that cause inconsistencies and confusions -Hlaw 10:10, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Your understanding is flawed. Hong Kong is part of the PRC in terms of sovereignty. But Hong Kong and the mainland, and Macao, are functioning as different entities. Hong Kong has its own trade, immigration and customs policies and regulations.

Such changes are to avoid confusions, and to make the descriptions clear, accurate and easily understandable.

Discussion continues on other talk pages. -- 14:42, December 8, 2004 (UTC)

List of Ports

Okay, so we have just had 2 Korean ports added - out of alphabetical sequence. What next ? Who decides what ports are listed here. The AAPA lists show that the port of Kwangyang ranks higher than Incheon, so why include the latter.

We need to put some objective criteria on what should be included in this list and why? Frelke 17:52, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Shipping Terminal/Port

I'm am doing research for an article on thedevelopment at the Southport Spit and I need to know the distinction, if any, between a "Shipping Terminal" and a "Port". Thanks --202.182.101.3 13:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Its not easy to say. A terminal is probably not publicly owned, it may be part of a larger port, but it might also be an offshore loading/discharging facility.Frelke 13:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Shipping terminal usually refers to a single wharf, slip or pier which is owned or controlled by a single entity (e.g. Dubai Ports, or International Terminal Operators), while the term port refers to a cluster of shipping terminals located adjacent or close to each other -- usually in a single harbor. 209.247.22.8 01:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC) gateur

Searching for "Port" on wikipedia

Searched wikipedia for "Port" using the box on the left and was brought to a low quality article about the left side of a boat. I don't have the skill to recommend deletion of the article, create/redirect to a disambiguation page, or anything else. There already exists an article describing the left side of a boat, at Port_(nautical). May I suggest someone with a bit of knowldge on the working of wikipedia take a look? Thanks. 172.143.160.225 04:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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