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[edit] Anarcho-Capitalism in Somalia

I slipped in a note in the introduction. It might belong lower in the article... if anyone disagrees with my placement, let's talk about it. I also think it might be worth copying the part of the anarcho-capitalism page dedicated to Somalia. Thoughts? afuturehead

[edit] major anarcho-capitalism bias

someone who obviously really likes anarcho-capitalism has seriously biased the "political background" section. Benwing 06:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I removed much of the crap. if some anarcho-capitalist wants to put in a measured reference to this, it may be ok, but tread carefully! wikipedia is not a soapbox. Benwing 06:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I got a source: http://www.mises.org/story/2701VTNC 20:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Correct name for Islamists

The main English language Somalia news websites (e.g http://www.shabelle.net/news/english.htm) continue to refer ri the Islamists under their original name of the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC), despite some confusion when the Supreme Council of Islamic Courts(SCIS)was set up. Perhaps Wikipedia should do the same. The SCIS is a separate wider body, a sort of council or shura, headed by Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys. The UIC remains the day-to-day executive headed by Sheikh Sharif Shaikh Ahmed. While it remains debatble which of these two men hold the most influence, the general consensus seesm to be to call the Islamists the UIC. Maghreb

[edit] Current state of the article

I tried to make the article look up to date, but in the process a lot of information has been duplicated, coherence has been compromised, and in short the article is (I hope) factually correct but probably confusing to the reader.

--Atavi 18:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comments on civillian deaths during the Battle of Mogadishu

Do any Somali nationals (or other people who have been to Somalia/Mog recently) have any comments on the general belief expressed in the Battle of Mogadishu article that civilian deaths were too numerous to be counted / records too poorly kept / it was too difficult to distinguish military from civilian deaths, etc? Have there been local efforts to tabulate the carnage (or to document egregious cases where civilians were needlessly killed or endangered) in the year since 1993? It would almost seem as if there is no interest in "western" circles in investigating this issue. (Also, a more detailed breakdown on participating SNA or other militia, and their losses, would be appreciated.) --Whiskey Pete, November 25 2006

There won't be anything like what you're describing for many years, and those will at best be estimates. Noone even knows how many people live in Mogadishu today, or how many were living there during the Battle of Mogadishu, let alone how many of them died. Also, deaths from organized military violence pale in comparison to deaths due to starvation, illness, petty street violence, crime and general anarchy. Hundreds of thousands of people have died of those causes.--Ingoman 19:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Have you been to Mogadishu recently, Ingoman? If not comprehensive records, surely some mosques, subclan elders, etc must have at least partial records. --Whiskey Pete


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