Talk:Polish plait
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Can someone verify the last paragraph? As far as I know the plaited pigtail worn by Chinese Qing dynasty officials/noblemen were real plaits/braids as opposed to Polish plait, which from what I can gather is a variation of dreadlock... and if I remember correctly, even peasants and common-born men in Qing dynasty era wore plaits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.5.251 (talk) 11:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure about adding this to the "polish culture" category. I know the disorder was first described there, but is it really a Polish cultural item? Joyous 00:34, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
- Oh. I see now. Sorry. :-) Joyous 01:27, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
This is clearly a made up article. Ive never heard of Polish plait. Can someone verify the veracity of the facts
- How about a quick Google search for the start? --[[User:Kpalion|Kpalion (talk)]] 08:04, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Polish Plait
I read the article whilst eating my lunch. Not a good idea. I have actually met a person who was an alcoholic who was afflicted with that condition. I offered to help her by cutting her hair for her, but she would not allow me to.
Regards, --TracyRenee 13:42, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Nice article. Ground 15:01, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
How is this a disease? There are no symptoms. Inflamed scalp? Is that the symptom? Is this actually considered a disease in medical literature? It just sounds like dreadlocks to me.
- A disease is any abnormal condition of the body or mind that causes discomfort, dysfunction, or distress to the person affected or those in contact with the person. Plica polonica does cause discomfort and distress to the person affected (itchy, and very painful to touch) and those in contact with the person (smells bad for instance). --[[User:Kpalion|Kpalion (talk)]] 22:17, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
how does this differ from just one big dreadlock?
I've seen some homeless people with what looks like Polish Plait to me (Although I'm no doctor). Is the disease still around today?--[[User:Marie Rowley|Marie | Talk]] 07:49, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- AFAIK, it's much less common nowadays, especially in developed countries, but still, if you don't wash, comb and cut your hair, you'll be quite likely to develop a Polish plait. A homeless person suffering from one would not surprise me much. --[[User:Kpalion|Kpalion (talk)]] 17:45, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I saw a kid about my age with Polish plait yesterday... it wasn't as much disgusting as just very awkward-looking. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 23:00, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] This Actually Exists, But ...
This condition actually exists, and is suitably grotesque -- but its description as Polish Plait seems to be an oddity from the 19th century. There is a reference to it in the Oxford English Dictionary (2nd Edition):
Polish plait, `a matted condition of the hair induced by neglect, dirt, and pediculi, common in Poland, Lithuania, and Tartary' (Syd. Soc. Lex., s.v. Plica polonica): see plica 1.
The only usage the OED cites is:
1875 Sir W. Turner in Encycl. Brit. I. 812/2 He described the state of the hair when affected with Polish plait.
Though, a quick Google search shows that the latin form "plica polonica" is still common currency among "hair specialists". How bizarre.--Simon.Pole 07:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] I have had Plica Polonica
Hello,
I was 19 yrs old, when I developed this awful sticky, smelly, mass on the right side of my scalp. I was not told the name of this disorder. But I now have my medical records, and see that the doctor that treated me for it diagnosed it as plica polonica. I do not see anything in the description of this disorder that would apply to myself. I am not of polish descent, I never had kinky or curly hair, I kept my hair very clean, I had no history of mental illness, except for the fact that I was depressed, due to a disease named Hidradenitis Suppurativa (which my doctor also kept the name of that disease from me also!!) The doctor prescribed a lotion and shampoo (Baker's P&S) after about 2 months of using these my scalp healed very well. Now 25 yrs later, I still suffer with my Hidradenitis, but I don't have any scalp problems, other than slight dander. Can anyone tell me if this disorder has a tendency of recurrance? And if the plica & hidradenitis have a common link?
Thanks user cody2000
- Where in the article did you read that the Polish plait affetcs people of Polish descent, with kiny or curly hair and mentally ill? It only says that it's the result of deficient hair care. Prescribing shampoo and lotion was a natural solution to this kind of problem. Kpalion 13:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] picture!
what happened to the picture of man with the really cool nice looking polish plait! why was it taken off? --Snowy Mcintosh 17:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC) http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsname=Wikipedia+Images&dekey=Plait.JPG
[edit] East Asia
I cut this from the article:
"A similar hairstyle was once relatively common in East Asia, particularly Imperial China, where it was often worn in combination with extremely long fingernails. These fashions were reserved mainly for noblemen and ascetics, who wished to advertise their freedom from menial labor and earthly attachment. For the average peasant, such a coiffure would have been ludicrously impractical."
per concerns above -- this does not really seem related to polish plaits. -- phoebe/(talk) 06:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
