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What language is all this nonsense?? Please translate into English. 66.245.64.45 17:35, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of removing the first anon's comments because they were offensive, irrelevant, in Swedish, and for all I know libellous. —Blotwell 05:09, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Perfect third? 2 Assonant or Consonant 3 Please alter... 4 Fact or Fict

[edit] Perfect third?

I've long thot (and read in a book called "Temperament") that 4:3 was the ratio of a perfect third: B to the F+ below it (248Hz to 186Hz), but there doesn't seem to be a page about the perfect third.

[edit] Assonant or Consonant

I wonder if by "consonant", some authors mean "assonant". Only recently hav I gotten the impression that these were synonyms. Brewhaha@edmc.net 06:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please alter...

..."Specifically, it is considered consonant when heard in its most common position as detailed above; but dissonant when built upon a chord's root." Suppose we have 2 chords with identical notes, only the note that we consider the root is different. How does which note we consider the root affect the sound of the interval?? Georgia guy 16:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right - it should have been the bass note, not the root. I've fixed it. (Mark - 03 September 2006)

[edit] Fact or Fict

User "Keenan Pepper" has asked for a citation regarding this edit. I'm not sure what that entails even after reading the Wiki page on citations. Is it enough to find a web site that confirms it independently? If so, this one does: http://www.ars-nova.com/cpmanual/dissonance.htm But I don't know who they are and whether their confirmation carries enough weight. Obviously if it was Groves there would be no argument. Anyway, what they say about the perfect fourth is: "The perfect fourth is unique among the intervals in that it is treated sometimes as a dissonance and sometimes as a consonance. When formed with the bass it is normally considered dissonant. There is a special case called the 'consonant fourth'". (Mark - 3 September 2006)

Interesting. I'm looking to arrange three melodies into one. It seems to me that if the first and last chords are either interesting or major, then the middle might work out nicely. Brewhaha@edmc.net 06:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

By the Wiki page on citations, do you mean Citation or Wikipedia:Citing sources? I don't think the former would do you much good, but you should definitely read the latter. A manual for computer software (which is what [1] is) is better than nothing, I guess, but I was thinking more along the lines of a music theory textbook or a scholarly paper by a music theorist. —Keenan Pepper 05:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

The web page cited might be scholarly, and I don't think paper is necessarily more authoritative than the web can be.

No - I don't have any sources to hand that are more authoritative than that one that deal with that specific point, and I only found that one via a Google search after you asked for a citation. I read the "citing sources" article after clicking on your "citation needed" link and I see there's a multitude of ways to do it. I'm not sure which is most appropriate. If you think that source is worthy enough, would you mind citing it for me? Then I'll know how to do it next time. If you think it's not authoritative enough, then just revert my edit (bearing in mind that the article was in error as pointed out by user "Georgia Guy"). Thanks (Mark - 4 September 2006)

I found a paper that seems more appropriate. Citing sources is easy: just put <ref>reference information</ref>. I like to use templates like {{Cite journal}} and {{Cite book}} because I can't remember the correct punctuation, but they're not required. —Keenan Pepper 04:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Keenan. (Mark - 05 September 2006)

It is of course nice to hav some of both widely circulated materials and web pages for references. Keep in mind that trivia abounds in music, so finding paper for some things might be rather tricky. You might need to use the web, first. Brewhaha@edmc.net 06:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The PDF link at the bottom doesn't work anymore (Thomas - 08 August 2008)