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[edit] Full name

Some sources I saw say his full name was "George Percy Grainger", others "Percy Aldridge Grainger". Can someone straighten this out? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 18:40 28 Jun 2003 (UTC)

He was born George Percy Grainger but later changed his name to Percy Aldridge Grainger in October of 1911 concurrently with the the first publication of his compositions. Aldridge is his mother's maiden name.

--Melias2083 06:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Grove V (1954) calls him Percy Aldridge Grainger, but Slonimsky (1998) calls him George Percy Aldridge Grainger. If the latter's correct (and I usually trust Slonimsky), that would mean he added Aldridge to his existing name but didn't remove any part of it. JackofOz 07:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, he never used George but preferred Percy; however, the above suggests that George always remained part of his legal name. JackofOz 08:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australian?

Someone (208.187.9.24) replaced "Australian-born" by "Australian" and removed the English references in the categories. Since Grainger moved to England when he was 13 and to the US when he was 32, I think the previous designations were fair and in fact we should add the American category (the other day the bass trombonist for my orchestra told me he had played under Grainger in a Massachusetts youth orchestra, and he had thought of PG as American). David Brooks 23:59, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well I did an assignment for year 10 and he was on our list as a choice of an Australian Composer and I entered in the Australian Composer section for a music esteidford with one of his pieces

June 2006

[edit] Anti-semitic et al

i have been under the impression (mostly from the Bird bio) that he didn't so much feel anti-semetic as he felt that anglo music should use anglo markings, thus the strict maintaing of non italian based musical markings (louden as opposed to crescendo, etc). it seems that he was more of a 'to each kind there own' brand of racist than a general superiority kind. also, is a more indepth mentioning of his commitment to the folk song as performed by the native (instead of adapting to standard rhythms/markings ala Vaughn-williams) something we should address here?Cgrantmaledy 01:33, 28 April 2007 (UTC) cgrantmaledy

[edit] Sado masochism etc

unless there is citation on these claims surely they should be removed?? Kunchan 23:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Probably no cites as his sexuality is common knowledge among Australians. If you check the museum catalogue there are several whips described. The catologue is not comprehensive as the museum has over 250,000 Percy Grainger items. This bio is quite good and mentions the photo's, clothing and number of whips donated to the museum and also briefly his sexuality. I've added it to the external links. Wayne 03:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
It's actually well-cited in the 1999 John Bird biography; check out page 155 at Google Books. Gordonofcartoon 02:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Folksong recording

I restricted the claim that Grainger was the first to use Edison wax cylinders in recording folksongs, because according to de Val (2000), 357 (whom I've cited in the article), 'Eugenia Lineva had used a cylinder machine in 1897' for folksong collecting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N p holmes (talkcontribs) 09:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Champion of Saxophone

This article titles him as a "champion of the saxophone" but never expounds on this at all other than that he played it in the Army band. I'm not saying this is not true, because I've heard that he enjoyed the instrument very much. But it'd be nice if there was more information on this. SousaFan88 (talk) 10:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


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