Talk:Paul Finebaum

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Contents 1 Tommy Charles Book 2 Affiliate locations 3 Richard Scrushy lawsuit 4 Legacy section not NPOV, needs citation

[edit] Tommy Charles Book

This is not a Finebaum publication. Please refrain from adding this reference back. Thanks! --STS01 18:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

• Since the book is, ostensibly, about Finebaum, I reckon it merits a mention in the article. Perhaps not in the same context as it has been added before. --Dystopos 19:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

• • I agree...so why did you add it back in the same context as before? --STS01 02:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• Laziness (just click on "undo"), I suppose. Move it around in the article as you see fit, just don't delete it. Realkyhick 18:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• • Laziness is a poor excuse. Create a proper place for this or remove it please. Thanks. --STS01 20:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• • The book is about the subject of the article. If it doesn't belong here, where does it belong? Charles doesn't have (or likely merit) his own article. Come on, use a little common sense here! I beginning to think STS01 has something personal against Finebaum — which puts him in a fairly large group. Realkyhick 20:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I have nothing against Finebaum. I listen to his show daily. I just think your wrong about this publication. Use it as a reference if needed but don't list it under his publications. Thanks. --STS01 22:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind listing it separately, though I think it's more relevant when mentioned close to the "I Hate" books, since that is what Charles was spoofing. Realkyhick 00:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• Regarding "laziness", it would be more productive to rearrange things when you don't think they are organized properly than to just delete them and expect other people to make improvements as well as restore the damage. --Dystopos 20:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• • If I agreed that this information belonged here I would find a place for it.--STS01 20:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
    • That would serve as a reasonable excuse for the first removal, but once it's clear that there is a consensus that the information is relevant to the article, you need to adjust and seek other ways to improve it in concert with your fellows instead of escalating an edit war. --Dystopos 21:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

• • Look up Dystopos. I'm the one who started this discussion. Your the one who has escalated this issue. If I knew you were going jump up on your soap box again, I wouldn't have bothered. Your personal attacks aren't helping to resolve this issue --STS01 22:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, guys, settle down. I set up two subsections under Publications: "By Finebaum" and "About Finebaum," and rearrenged the text accordingly. How's that? Realkyhick 03:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Affiliate locations

• According to Finebaum's website, his only affiliates are in Alabama. So, I changed it to read as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.26.109 (talk • contribs)

• I believe two of the affiliates are located in far western Georgia if I read the map correctly. JMyrleFuller 11:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Scrushy lawsuit

Removing this section. This is insignificant and unsourced information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by STS01 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Legacy section not NPOV, needs citation

Guys, I like Paul as much as anyone, but the "Legacy" section is a little over the top and definitely not NPOV. And the New York Times article reference is not sourced at all. Let's work on this a bit. Realkyhick 00:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This section should be removed. STS01 15:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. It belongs because it details facts about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.147.123.126 (talk)

Paul Finebaum really has little voice or respect outside the state of Alabama. The show is broadcast on the internet but there are no participating radio affiliates outside the state of Alabama. The information you are trying to add is bias and violates Wikipedias NPOV policy. --STS01 22:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The simple statement "it details facts about him" is untrue. They are not documented facts, they the opinion of the writer. That constitutes a particular point of view, which violates Wikipedia NPOV policy. As I said, I'm a fan of Paul, and I tend to personally agree with the statements, but they are still POV and do not belong here. *By the way, you'll help your case by registering for Wikipedia under a user name instead of hiding behind anonymous IP addresses.) Realkyhick 01:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I agree that the section in question is blatantly pushing a particular point of view. Verifiable references to Finebaum's influence could be made part of the article, but not in such an overblown fashion. --Dystopos 13:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

We are now approaching an edit war situation, but one which involves anonymous IP editors. If this situation does not resolve before April 10, I will ask administrators for semi-protection, if for no other reason than to flush out these anonymous editors who are too cowardly to sign up for a user name. Realkyhick 21:18, 8 April 2007 (UTC)