Talk:Pan-Arabism

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Contents 1 Comment by Palmiro 2 More info needed on some points 3 Somalia? 4 Merging of Arab unification and Pan-Arabism?? 5 YouTube

[edit] Comment by Palmiro

Aflaq combined palingenetic socialism and Italian fascism with elements of 19th-century European anti-Semitism and xenophobic hatreds of other non-Arab nationalities, in particular Persians.

This is a rather unusual interpretation of Aflaq's politics. I've commented it out for the moment, unless someone wants to source it to a historian (or political opponent, or whatever) of some description I'll delete it. Palmiro | Talk 20:01, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More info needed on some points

It is closely connected to Arab nationalism. Pan-Arabism has tended to be secular and often socialist, and has strongly opposed Western political involvement in the Arab world. Pan-Arabism is a form of ethnic nationalism.

Pan-arabism is connected to arab nationalism? Isn't it the same thing? What's the difference between them?

More importantly however, pan-Arabism, in the name of unity, has helped inspire pogroms against Non-Arab/Non-Muslim Minorities such as the persecution of Assyrian Christians in Iraq, and later of the Kurds.

Except that we should add berber to the list, why was this sentence removed? Is it wrong? Didn't the regime who claimed they were panarabic harmed these minorities?

For Aflaq, you might use this quote: "In this struggle we retain our love for all. When we are cruel to others, we know that our cruelty is in order to bring them back to their true selves, of which they are ignorant. Their potential will, which has not been clarified yet, is with us, even when their swords are drawn against us."

[Each Arab] "is forced to return to himself, to sink into his depths, to discover himself anew after experience and pain. At that point the true unity will be realized, and this is a new kind of unity different from political unity; it creates the unity of spirit among the individuals of the nation." Michel Aflaq source

--equitor 17:01, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Somalia?

Arab? In what way? They are Muslim yes, and use Arabic script, but Somalis are neither ethnically nor linguistically Arab. Cripipper 16:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging of Arab unification and Pan-Arabism??

Although there are understandable links between the two topics it has been noted that pan-arabism can incorporate arab peoples across the globe attempting not only to unify as a nation state but as an entity with which all can identify. Arab nationalism is generally confined to the Middle East and North Africa with the aim being an arab state incorporating much of the Middle East and North Africa into a cohesive and united nation. A popular theory for many years, there is unlikely to be a resolution and creation of such a state in the near future because of the difficulties in deciding who rules such a state. In the past Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia have all attempted to put themselves at the forefront of the arab nationalism movement by creating groups such as the Islamic Conference Organisation, yet all to little avail. (Hinnebusch, R. "The International Politics of the Middle East" Manchester University Press, 2003)

Therefore the two articles should be kept separate, witht he repeated information perhaps removed to make reading and use of the site quicker and easier. Bencgibbins 11:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I say merge Aaliyah Stevens 18:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube

The current Pan-Arabist#External_links contains an excessive amount of YouTube links. Some (if not most) should be removed.Bless sins (talk) 01:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)