Talk:Os Guinness
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[edit] Spelling
His name is spelled wrong - it should be Oswald or Os Guinness not "Guiness"Brian0324 22:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC) Actually it is spelt correctly,
OS GUINNESS, is the correct spelling.
[edit] Genealogy
His connection to the brewer, Arthur Guinness, is as follows: Arthur Guinness (1725-1803) begat John Grattan Guinness, who begat Henry Grattan Guinness (1835-1910), who begat a son - Gershom Whitfield Guinness (who lived in China during the Boxer Rebellion) and a daughter - Mary Geraldine Guinness (1865-1949). Gershom was Os's grandfather. This makes Arthur his great-great-great-grandfather. SlackerMom 17:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Problems with new article
There are various problems with the new article. Some of them are easy to fix (e.g., Wikify terms and format it properly), whereas some of them are harder to fix (e.g., the original research and neutrality). The problem with the original research is that the text exclusively cites primary sources by Guinness, not secondary or tertiary reliable sources. Hence, his notability is not independently established, and his place in the greater cultural milieu is not clear. Also, it is not apparent that each of the areas covered deserves the relative amount of space that it receives. How important is the Trinity Forum or the content of one book or another (many of which are summarized in the various sections -- cf. WP:BOOK), for instance? The neutrality problems are mostly minor phrasing issues, etc.
Also, blogs aren't reliable sources so I tagged those.
Finally, I worry about the copyright of the text that was obviously copy-n-pasted from somewhere. --Flex (talk/contribs) 19:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that there are significant problems with neutrality in this thing. "Os Guinness has made a significant impact on the world around him" -- well, that's not really the harbinger of neutrality, is it? Who's going to start fixing this? PatriciaT (talk) 23:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
