Talk:Open Game License

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Contents 1 Open gaming 2 References needed for criticism section 3 Copyleft? 4 Notability tag removed 5 Context tag 6 4th edition GSL/OGL/SRD?

[edit] Open gaming

If any editors familiar with the OGL, and with "open gaming" in general, would like to visit the Talk:Open gaming page and participate in the current discussion, your time and expewrtise would be greatly appreciated. -- BBlackmoor ^(talk) 19:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] References needed for criticism section

Almost the entire Criticism section of this article is currently unreferenced. Particularly troublesome is that talks about "various" sources making specific complaints about the OGL without actually citing specifically which person or which group is making which complaint and where editors can go to verify the complaint was made. So that section badly needs cited, verifiable references to back up who is specifically making what criticism about the OGL. Dugwiki 21:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Wizards' own FAQ section on the OGL includes questions such as "Does this mean Wizards can take my work and profit from it? Isn't that unfair?" IMHO, the criticisms that were levelled in the old version, though uncited, were certainly valid and important -- would-be licensees may come into this page looking for a non-legalese explanation of the rules.

Does anyone know anything about the implications of dual-licensing under the OGL? Smoke003723 (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyleft?

How exactly is this copyleft?

Under a copyleft form of copyright license, the restrictions imposed are that the work can be copied, modified or used in any subsequent work if, and only if, the author of that subsequent work agrees to grant the same copyleft rights to the public to freely copy, use and modify the subsequent work.

While the OGL clearly states you cannot use their works in a subsequent work made using the OGL

7. Use of Product Identity: You agree not to Use any Product Identity,

Doesn't that contradict it being copyleft?

So what exactly is the OGL? Sounds like nothing more than giving permission to create something so long as it doesn't infringe on copyright...which is the same as not having the OGL in the first place. So is Wizards claiming they have the right to sue for anyone creating something without including their OGL to it? It Wizards basically just trying to gain access to freely use 3rd party material without paying for it? shadzar|Talk|contribs 08:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability tag removed

I removed the notability tag from this article. The edit note indicated that it was added because the article didn't have sufficient references. That's not the correct tag to use in these cases, since there is a difference between being of questionable notability and not having enough references. The correct tag to use in a case where there aren't enough references is the "refimprove" tag, which I added to the article. Rray (talk) 13:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

The notability of OGL is still in doubt because the sources cited do not meet the reliabilty requirements of WP:RS. The sources cited at the time of writing are:

1. An interview with the vice president of the publisher of OGL;
2. A blog, which is self-published;
3. A FAQ, issued by the publisher of OGL.

Please restore the Notability cleanup template which was placed on the article to address these issues, which should be left there until evidence of noability in the form of citations from reliable sources can be found.--Gavin Collins (talk) 18:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Context tag

I've removed the context tag, as I think the introduction provides context. If someone still thinks insufficient context is provided, feel free to re-add the tag or (better yet), rewrite the intro to provide the additional context that is needed. Rray (talk) 17:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 4th edition GSL/OGL/SRD?

does something need to be placed here or anywhere regarding these things? the special conference i think that was in a podcast and the article (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4news/20080108a) on wizards website stated a few things, but nothing has been heard since about this. should it be noted that the OGL may be changing with 4th edition. or at least a new OGL specifically for 4th edition will exist seperately form the 3.x OGL and SRD? shadzar-talk 02:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

so no one has any idea on what if anything should be included about the several month old information about the new OGl that requires a fee to use? wouldn't that be a closed gaming license since only businesses with the $5000 USD are allowed to have acess to "OGL" amterial with the new editon? shadzar-talk 22:46, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

ok so now new information has come about the D&D 4E GSL. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4news/20080417a shadzar-talk 21:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)