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[edit] Hala Hussein

I Undued your Edit of Hala Hussein you made on November 14 2007. Hala Hussein's Husband (Kamal Mustafa Abdallah Sulatan Al-Tikriti) was Captured by U.S. Troops on May 17 2003, So please do not remove Any information Concerning her husband On The Page. For more Info on the fate of her husband go to U.S. list of most-wanted Iraqis, and go down to Kamal Mustafa Abdallah Sultan Al-Tikriti or any other family member who was involved in the ongoing war in Iraq.

[edit] Brunswick-Lüneburg

The name of the article Brunswick-Lüneburg disagrees with you. I have never heard of Lunenburg before. Also, the article mixed Brunswick-Lüneburg and Brunswick-Lunenburg so I consolidated to the one spelling to match the article name.
Sleigh (talk) 22:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Manfred von Richthofen

Copyedit from my page: "Just to inform you, since 1918 there is no German title like 'Freiherr' in existence, nobility titles were transfered to being part of the surname. This was in consequence to the abolishment of German Monarchy. So Freiherr, Baron, Prinz etc. are part of the name since 1918 in Germany. Germany doesn't have any nobility since then. --Oldnag85 (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)"

Thanks for your note. Does this mean that Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen is correct? or was the change in hereditary titles in effect after World War I? FWIW Bzuk (talk) 22:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC).

Along with the establishment of the Weimar Republic (Weimar constitution, article 109(2)[1] Adelsbezeichnungen gelten nur als Teil des Namens und dürfen nicht mehr verliehen werden. - Nobility titles are valid only as part of the name... ) hereditary titles became part of the surname so his full legal name was Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen thenafter. Article 109 remains the only article of the Weimar Constitition still valid in Germany. Hope I could help --Oldnag85 (talk) 16:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I already changed the name on the main page. Found a link to an english version of the Weimar Constitution and added it to the talk page. - And I forgot to write, as long he was of real nobility Freiherr was part of his name even before WWI. While talking to him he would have been Baron von Richthofen.--Oldnag85 (talk) 17:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, happy birthday whenever that is. Were you you born in the Year of the Snake? It seems we are near contemporaries at any rate :-)
When I referred to policy, what I meant was WP:UCN; in other words, formal/legal names are not a requirement on the English language Wikipedia. Of course, if we used the most common name for English speakers that would be Manfred von Richthofen, which illustrates how many exceptions there are to the rule(s). Anyway, this is all subjective and probably reflects cultural differences, but this is en.wikipedia after all. My personal preference is to use the name MvR used, rather than one decreed some time after his death. Grant | Talk 01:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks in advance! - But I was earlier than you - so I was born in the Year of the dragon. I am counting hours for birthday on Tuesday... :-)
I just checked the policy and I think the current naming of MvR complies with it. The article name contains the most commonly used name and within the text his full name is mentioned once. I also checked some examples and think the full name is done according to wikipedia policy --Oldnag85 (talk) 12:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Germany Invitation

Hello, Oldnag85! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.


--Zeitgespenst (talk) 13:17, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


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