Image talk:Nuclear power is not healthy poster.jpg
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[edit] Unacceptable as fair-use
Rationale given is:
- This low resolution photograph was made to illustrate the anti-nuclear movement article. This poster is one of the two most common images of the anti-nuclear movement.
Are you kidding me?
- One - it is not one of the two most common images of the anti-nuclear movement. This statement is, in addition to being unsourced, is downright wrong.
- Two - Attribution anyone? Who does the copyright for this belong to? You don't know do you? You can't use something as fair use while NOT stating the source and espically not KNOWING what the copyright status is in the first place.
- Three - If any of this hasn't convinced you yet, we already have a host of images on the commons that illustrate what this is purported it illustrate. Tell me why any of these wouldn't work. Image is completely and utterly REPLACEABLE. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 23:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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- There are only two iconic images of the anti-nuclear movement, this one and the nuclear no-thanks image which was also uploaded to the commons, and needs to be uploaded here instead. You will notice that the flower symbol is the same in both images. None of the images you referenced are of either of these images, and they can't be because they are on the commons and the commons doesn't allow fair use images. The source is I took the photo myself. However it is of a historical political poster, which, although the groups which created it never copyrighted the image, is still copyrighted by default by law. Cheapthrill 03:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, it is still copyrighted by law. We still need to know what organization it belongs to. And your claim that it is one of just two iconic images of the anti-nuclear movement is not backed by any evidence, and I dispute this claim. What about this image? How do I know this isn't the "official" icon of the anti-nuclear movement? I don't, because one doesn't exist. It may be the official icon of an organization, but no organization represents the entire anti-nuclear movement. And we still don't know what organization this image is from. Furthermore, there are many images in that category on the commons with people holding banners and all sorts of things. Those are not disputed, have no less value than this picture, and would serve the exact same purpose putting it in the article. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 11:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- This poster is probably almost 30 years old. I remember seeing it a lot as early as 1978 or 1979 at the Diablo Canyon rallies in California. Good luck on finding out who created it. I do know that it is an adaptation of an earlier anti-war poster that dates from about 1965 or so. Cheapthrill 12:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, it is still copyrighted by law. We still need to know what organization it belongs to. And your claim that it is one of just two iconic images of the anti-nuclear movement is not backed by any evidence, and I dispute this claim. What about this image? How do I know this isn't the "official" icon of the anti-nuclear movement? I don't, because one doesn't exist. It may be the official icon of an organization, but no organization represents the entire anti-nuclear movement. And we still don't know what organization this image is from. Furthermore, there are many images in that category on the commons with people holding banners and all sorts of things. Those are not disputed, have no less value than this picture, and would serve the exact same purpose putting it in the article. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 11:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- There are only two iconic images of the anti-nuclear movement, this one and the nuclear no-thanks image which was also uploaded to the commons, and needs to be uploaded here instead. You will notice that the flower symbol is the same in both images. None of the images you referenced are of either of these images, and they can't be because they are on the commons and the commons doesn't allow fair use images. The source is I took the photo myself. However it is of a historical political poster, which, although the groups which created it never copyrighted the image, is still copyrighted by default by law. Cheapthrill 03:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)