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[edit] Merge from Nogai Horde
The Nogai Horde article could basically be a section of this article dealing with the history of the Nogai people. Niether article is large, and persons interested in one are likely going to be interested in the other. Caerwine 19:13, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] nogai people and nogai horde
i do not agree with merging those different topic despite they are dealing with the same: the nogai. the nogai horde has only to do with history and what has happened to the nogai horde in the past, which has nothing to do with the nogai people now. of course, the nogai people are coming from the nogai horde, but in terms of talking about ethnic group it would be better to present the topics seperately. would you like to merge the topics "commonwealth" and "scottish people"? cheers
- It appears someone else has decided to merge them anyway, despite your objection... I'm just trying to fix all the redirect issues this has caused now! Codex Sinaiticus 02:37, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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- I moved Nogai Horde back. bogdan 20:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- I really do think that these two articles should be merged, the article on the Nogai Horde should simply be part of the section on Nogai history.!
- Yes, to me it does seem that the Nogai Horde thing is about the Nogai History? Is it not? It is proper to put the history in the history section!?--Erkin2008 17:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] hi
Hi I am a descendant of nogai too. I find it a little bit odd that the nogai people have a flag of a somewhat doglike creature. But its clear the nogai were sunni muslims. Then ask yourself this. Would a sunni muslim state take a flag that looks like a dog with wings? . I find it very questionable. Also I would like to add some other things to the article I heard from my grandmother etc. It is commenly known in my village the nogai were famous for their horse skills and often raided tartar villages. After a while they settled down and lived with tartars. Most of them moved into the Crim area and eventually alot of them migrated to Turkey. so does everyone agree with this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.53.211.52 (talk)
- I'm not sure what Nogai means in Turkic, but it is the Mongolian word for dog. It is pronounced "nuh-huh."--Buzava (talk) 04:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "related groups" info removed from infobox
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why the Nogai Population is very small?
The Nogais have been in Western Russia for hundreds of years.Why the Nogai population is very small compared to the ethnic Russian population which is over 100 millions? Even if you add the Nogai population in Turkey with the Nogai population in Russia, it is still small. Sonic99 02:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
The population of Nogais in Russia is perhaps higher as it seems, because on the Population Consensus in Russia many peoples proclaim for ethnic Russians while they arent. However, the number of Nogais in Russia is now increasing. Spring01 21:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- Spring01, why would the Nogais want to lie on the Russian census and claim they are ethnic Russians? The Mongolians killed many slavic people in the 13th century. During Nazi German Invasion of Russia, there are many ethnic Russian casualities. How can the slavic Russian population still be much bigger than the Turkic population? Sonic99 02:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
- a/ The Nogais are only one very small group among the Turkic peoples of Russia. There are 5 million Volga Tartars, 3(?) million Bashkirs, etc. So the Turkic total is 10,000,000+. But dont forget many Russian provinces in Europe have always been 99% Slavic with virtually no Turkic speakers. The Mongols never settled there. Jameswilson 01:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Because of ethnic discrimination, for example at finding jobs etc. Some sources state that today there are more than 5 millions of Nogais. Spring01 21:33, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Spring01, where are the sources that state that there are over 5 million Nogais? Any link? Sonic99 17:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
I have more than enough links for that. Can it be in Russian language?? Spring01 02:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes, thats no problem. Jameswilson 23:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Spring01, can you read Russian? I can't read Russian. Please try to find an English translated version if you can. Sonic99 02:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Of course I can read Russian language. I mean will it count as a prove if I give link in Russian language because I know that sometimes people say I wont accept that because it isnt in english. So will it count on english wikipedia?? Spring01 15:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Spring01, put your Russian language link in this Nogais article. Thanks. Sonic99 03:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
