Talk:Newmarket (disambiguation)

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[edit] Rename disambiguation page

• Rename: Newmarket → Newmarket, Suffolk
• Rename: Newmarket (disambiguation) → Newmarket

The current article at Newmarket is one of three sufficiently and equally prominent locations with that name. Per Wikipedia:Disambiguation and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), none of these satisfies the criteria of primary usage, hence the plain page title should be used as the disambiguation page. The current article at Newmarket should thus be moved to Newmarket, Suffolk, which currently redirects to Newmarket, to prepare for this. Mindmatrix 20:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

• Support as nominator. Mindmatrix 20:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom, though I strongly suspect that the misguided and incorrect notion that the one in Suffolk should get precedence over a dab page just because it had the name first is going to get cited here. Bearcat (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Support. A Google search indicates that there is no clear primary use. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
• Support - the primary notability of the England Newmarket is Newmarket Racecourse which is covered separately. Beyond that, there are an awful lot of other Newmarkets that users could be searching for. Franamax (talk) 00:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
• Support - Newmarket, Suffolk, is likely the original Newmarket but it is neither a unique nor clever name and is not the predominant use of the name. DoubleBlue (Talk) 02:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comments

Please submit extended comments about the page move here.

• Oh no, not again. --RFBailey (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

There are a few differences here. WP:CANSTYLE contains the naming conventions used by Canadian editors, which does not include a restriction of naming articles as Placename, Province as there is with the US placename articles (see convention). Thus, Newmarket, Ontario is a viable candidate to be named Newmarket, and hence this discussion is quite valid.

Further, whereas the discussion for Worcester may have gone one way, that for Windsor was quite different. Also, simply because a place has existed for a long time does not imply it is historically significant; it's just old. To be significant, it should have had lasting influence beyond its borders. To use an example from the discussion you mentioned, Jerusalem and Babylon are historically significant for this reason. So are Rome, Ankara and Beijing. In my opinion, neither Worcester nor Newmarket qualify, and a dab page is desirable. Mindmatrix 23:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)