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[edit] Article too complex

This article is too complex, IMHO. It needs heavy copy-editing, some restructuring and, of course, wikification. As it is, it reads too much like a scientific paper, not an encyclopedia article, I can understand everything by carefully reading the text, but skimming through the article left me as confused as before opening it. Paranoid 09:09, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Agree with User:paranoid. Also some small things (which I can help to correct), like inconsistent terminology (CT/CAT). I don't know ehich of this is the more common term in English, unfortunately.
In the large picture the article is rather long and the main article and the introduction have some overlap. IMHO the Practical Achievements and Implications sections should better be located in a separate article, name to be determined. Or perhaps simply doing a dedicated Functional Brain Imaging article, where all the nice research stuff may go, and in plain old Brain Imaging we can expand on the most used techniques CAT and MRI and their typical use in neurosurgery?
I don't want to rush to any action just now and would like to hear from the contributors.
Pjacobi 09:06, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I tend to think the second approach is better (with some modifications). The Brain imaging needs to give the general picture, but touch all aspects - history, methods, practical results as of today and future prospects. Confusingly, there is a bit of history in the introduction, later in history and then in recent breakthroughs. I think these sections need to be combined into one History with parts of the text moved into a next section Methods (or techniques). Then the Practical results section should go (it's not yet worth creating a separate articles for the bullet list of 5 items, IMHO) and finally the Implications... or Future prospects. Wherether there is too much technical details, that information can be moved into the corresponding articles (or removed if it already has this info).Paranoid 15:11, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I agree that this article needs work, but Wikipedia needed a starting point for such an article, and I think the natural evolutionary modifications will improve this first shot greatly. -- Brinticus 12:25, 4 August 2004
I split off most of the article into History of brain imaging. Perhaps there are some things in there that should have remained in the main article- I'm not sure, since it's still such a long article, but now it's not quite so daunting. Sayeth 19:44, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] References

This article is now bottom-heavy. Surely, just a couple of references would be enough? JFW | T@lk 16:24, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sure. I've done it now. Sayeth 19:06, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image request

It might be nice to have a graph showing the relative spatial and temporal resolution of each technique. I saw a similar graph in a presentation once, where the spatial and temporal resolution were the X and Y axes, and each technique was a blob which stretched over the graph. --NeuronExMachina 09:46, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rename/Merger

I'm proposing this article be renamed to Neuroimaging. This phrase is more technically correct. A google search for the EXACT phrase '"brain imaging"' yields ~1.5 million hits, whereas 'neuroimaging' offers ~2 million. Semiconscious (talk · home) 08:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from

A new article was recently created: Brain mapping. I've suggested that article be merged into neuroimaging as a subsection. If someone thinks "mapping" is distinct enough from "imaging" however, I will remove the notice. Cheers! Semiconscioustalk 21:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I think "mapping" is more indicative of ascertaining the regional distribution of receptor systems (e.g. PET and SPECT binding of [11C] raclopride and [123I] IBZM to probe D2 receptors in vivo), while "imaging" is more indicative of acquiring absolute images of structure (e.g. MRI in vivo). I agree with the reply below that they are distinct, although I think this probably comes down more to my personal preference for the use of the terms rather than any sort of standardized terminology. --ARCrawford 14:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brain Mapping and Neuroimaging are related, but definetely distinct!

Despite the fact that the phrases "brain mapping" and "neuroimaging" frequently go together these are very distinct and deserve their individual domains, albeit with links to each other. Neuroimaging pertains to the protocols and techniques for acquirering and pre-rpcessing (e.g., skull stripping, tissue classification, region-of-interest delineation, etc.) Brain Mapping, on the other hand, refers to the computational techniques and tools for modeling, mapping and statistics on integrated brain structure and function. We need to make this distrinction. Neither of these two areas is a sub-field of the other, hence I'd recommend separation.

I would be happy to have them separate or list brain mapping and functional neuroimaging as sub-sections. I don't think there is a clear reason to go either way. -kslays 20:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brain Mapping and Neuroimaging are definitely distinct!

Concurring with user kslay, the field of Brain Mapping is the science of associating brain structure and function and of mapping the physical cartography of the brain. Neuroimaging is a set of methods to visualize the neurons or their activity at a variety of scales, and may have no direct relationship to brain mapping. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkSCohen (talk • contribs) 01:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Electromagnetic brain animation

This newish article is being proposed for deletion. Can some experts weigh in on whether this technique is notable or not? Scarykitty 05:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Not sure how to even respond to the "notable or not" comment. Electromagnetic brain animation has been making its way through the biotechnology/neuroscience academic gauntlet coming up on 15 years now. At this stage of the game it would be rare indeed for any serious academia to not be well aware of EBA and its seminal potential for the mental health field. As a current example; at least two of the most respected governmental science agencies in the United States have signed 'nondisclosure' contracts with the Behavior Research Institute so that they might be allowed in depth access to the total process and methodology of EBA. Basically speaking, 'transcranial magnetic stimulation' is the forerunner of 'electromagnetic brain animation'. A decent analogy could be TMS as an X-Ray machine and EBA as Magnetic Resonance Imaging.

It's not something that we wish to do at the moment, however, if others wanted to add EBA to Wikipedia it would probably take less than a day to gather adequate data, verify and write out a decent explanatory narration.

Lisa Perales President Educating Diverse Learners, LLC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.102.166.32 (talk) 23:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Single-cell recording

Isn't single-cell recording also a neuroimaging technique? Lova Falk 09:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
And, now that I think of it, Electroencephalography? Lova Falk 18:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, they're certainly taught as "experimental methods", but I've never heard them referred to as "imaging" techniques. I'd argue they're absolutely perfect examples of the distinction between brain mapping and imaging.--MilFlyboy (talk) 05:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] merging again

There are multiple pages with related content. Brain mapping is discussed above. Functional neuroimaging and functional imaging are two other articles. These topics could be distinct in principle, i would suggest to merge these articles until each subsection grows sufficiently large to merit its own article, then we could add them into one category. Kpmiyapuram (talk) 17:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] EEG

Why isn't there a subsection on electroencephalograms on this page? 193.203.134.198 (talk) 18:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)Dan

Kinda pushes the definition of imaging, doesn't it? Is seismography geoimagery? :-p --MilFlyboy (talk) 05:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


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