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Wonderful article, and this is precisely the sort of thing we can do well and actually help folks. Even if we were to be wrong about a bit here or there, we open up knowledge to the curious (rather than reiterating the known to the fannish). We were, for a time, trying to really open up Hogarth's various plates (e.g. A Harlot's Progress), but petered out a bit. Good stuff, only now I must buy a print for my office. Geogre 15:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I expect the proverbs suffer a bit from translation fatigue (16th century Flemish to German then to English). I did start work on Marriage à-la-mode but, in a bizarre coincidence, somebody split the article to sub-articles the same day I started work on it and I lost the will to continue. I keep thinking about tackling The Rake or Industry and Idleness, but the unreliability of my connection here wears me down. Yomanganitalk 16:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes, this is great stuff, from the same author as our excellent article on the Four Stages of Cruelty (tips hat).
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- I think the Marriage sub-articles should be reverted, to be honest - better to concentrate it all in one place. Your sandbox version looked like it was going well - perhaps we should resuscitate it?
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- And I have the catalogue from the Tate exhibition[1] :) (It was previously at the Louvre,[2] and will shortly be reopening at the CaixaForum Madrid until 26 August[3]) -- ALoan (Talk) 14:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mundarten vs. Sprichwoerter
Aren't these more Figures of Speech than Proverbs? Lycurgus 10:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what the point of the question is. Whether we use one description or the other in the text up for debate, but the accepted (or at least most widely used) English title for the painting is Netherlandish Proverbs. Yomanganitalk 12:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- The point is what the objects of discourse are. Upon closer inspection I see there actually a range of such, some of which are clearly squarely proverbs, others not so much so that the depicted class is less than well defined. Of course in the case of a classic by an old master the titling was never in question though I'd be curious to know what the authors title or common modern Nederlands title is ... Looked it up in the Nederlands wiki it's: "Nederlandse Spreekwoorden" which is consistent with the English title. FWIW I have seen work where said objects are referred to as 'thematic abstraction units'.
