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[edit] BotJunk

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Click above if you want to see a storage bin for records of legitimately uploaded pictures that were trashed because of out dated tags or over active bots. Kind of annoying. Arrg. Anyway, here for records sake.

[edit] Hachikokuyama

Hi, I'm glad to see that someone else has taken an interest in Hachikokuyama. I deleted the reference to the Seattle Space Needle since I did not see how it is a relevant benchmark to compare against. Perhaps verses another famous park would be better? Hope you don't mind. Bryan MacKinnon 13:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] question on Braille

Hi Nesnad,

I have a question for you about Japanese Braille. It's been so long since I've seen it that I can't remember: On syllables like gya, does the dakuten + yo'on sign go before the ki (as I assume), or between the ki and the ya?

Thanks, kwami 19:06, 2005 September 2 (UTC)

[edit] Nevis

Have you been to Nevis before? I have, and I found out quite a bit on the island. Icelandic Hurricane 13:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Basicjapanesekeyboard-notfinished.jpg

Hi. Thanks very much for the Japanese keyboard layout image that you created... Just letting you know, I've made an SVG version of this, Image:KB_Japanese.svg, and I was wondering if you have any comments on the image you'd like to offer so that I can improve it. Cheers! --StuartBrady (Talk) 21:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cxworld screenshot.jpg

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Here's a good rationale example for your screenshot [1]. Just do something similar as a rationale for your image. If it's that big a deal I can do it myself in a few days.--Wizardman 05:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Alright, no problem. Actually I just realized that the image never needed a rationale in the first place because of the upload date... oops on my part. Caused you worry for nothing, I would've ended up takign the tag back off when I saw it in the backlog two weeks from now, lol.--Wizardman 05:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Dig (novel)

Dear Nesnad, Thanks for your response to comments on this article (discussion). I have left a second statement on the discussion page which includes some part of a response to what you wrote, and would value your further reaction to the points raised in it. I think it might be possible to rescue part of this text under a different article title and with in-line citations, leaving the novel's own page to a separate development of its own. My interest in this is to get a clear statement of the differences between the fact and the fiction about the excavation onto an open record, so that the modifications to fact (which are quite demonstrable from published sources) in the novel do not become believed in by readers of the novel as if they were fact. Probably I have used Wikipedia incorrectly in order to try to do this, but it woud be really helpful if the right context within Wikipedia for this verifiable information could be identified, so that I can work on it! Otherwise I can envisage a Wikipedia article on the novel saying 'this is a novel set in the context of the historical events surrounding the excavation of Sutton Hoo', and that would, absolutely NPOV, be misleading, since the events have (with the author's own admission, and demonstrably from sources) been fictionalised, though the names and objects remain the same. The problem is that the author has not said this sufficiently clearly within the covers of the book, but only in his ephemeral publicity, which future readers are not so likely to read. Surely it is better that Wikipedia tells the truth? Many thanks, Dr Steven Plunkett 01:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sumoclip

Thank you very much for uploading Image:Sumoclip-may242007-tokyo.ogg; I think it adds a lot to the Sumo article. But I wonder if you could please recheck who the sumotori are? If May 24 was the day you took the video, that would be the 12th day of the honbasho, but on that day Mankajyou (spelled Mankajo here) won his bout with Gotenyu. I don't claim to be any kind of expert on the non-sekitori divisions, but I can find no record of any sumotori named "Tsuyoshitenyuu", however spelled. Are you sure you heard the shikona correctly? TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Never mind; I see you must have done the transliteration from the kanji yourself. 剛天佑 is Gōtenyū, not Tsuyoshitenyuu. [2] They apparently use an on-reading in this case. (My practically uneducated guess.) TCC (talk) (contribs) 00:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I am less than a novice when it comes to reading Japanese, so I rely on expert sumo sources. (I assume that the poetic shikona they use aren't typical expressions!) Everywhere I can find this rikishi listed in romaji, it's "Gotenyu". (or Gōtenyū, or Goutenyuu -- pick your transliteration.) You should have been able to hear the yobidashi and gyoji announcing them before the bout though; what did they say? TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

OK. Let me check with some other sumo fans and let you know what I get. You are maybe right, since I am not really an expect with sumo names I guess. Although of course they announced his name (and even sang it out for crying out loud!) I don't remember what they said now. I'll let you know, but I guess I'm leaning towards you are right. Nesnad 02:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Seoul Kims' guest house

A tag has been placed on Seoul Kims' guest house, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -- Shadowlynk (Talk) 20:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seoul Kims' guest house

I think you miunderstand how AfD works. AfDs are open for five days, after which they can be closed at any point. Not only was this AfD open for 11 full days, but there was no discussion at all for 7 days. The only one voting to keep the article was you, the creator, and notability had not been established with reliable sources (the travel guide may well be reliable, but it didn't establish notability.) I'm sorry you're offended, but I stand by my decision.--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

First, let me say I'm very sorry you're agrivated, I know having articles you started deleted is frustrating. You can take this up at deletion review if you really think deletion was unwarranted, but I must tell you that it's unlikely to be overturned. Like I said, notability was not established, and consensus was for deltion. The impetus for finding sources and establishing notability is on the ones who want it kept; also note that the fact that other non-notable articles exist does not exclude this one from the meeting the notability criteria.--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Pirate's Dinner Adventure

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. WebHamster 11:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Pirate's Dinner Adventure

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[edit] Special Barnstar for Tenacity!

		The Special Barnstar
		Nobody tries harder than Nesdnad! If you can get him to help with your article (provided it is a notable topic) your article has a friend indeed! He leaves no stone unturned! OfficeGirl 17:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Odaiba015-landscape.jpg

The licensing informating on commons:Image:Odaiba015-landscape.jpg and Image:Odaiba015-landscape.jpg disagree. Could you have a look, please? -- Ddxc (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't speak Japanese, unfortunately. At least in English or German I wouldn't infer from "free use" or "free to use" that the image is public domain; it might be any free license or even just "you don't have to pay to look at them" ^^. But as I said, I cannot read the Japanese text. -- Ddxc (talk) 06:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

(If you think the image is actually non-free, you can just let me know and I'll make sure it gets deleted, if you want me to. -- Ddxc (talk) 06:38, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable; I think they can stay PD-tagged unless/until someone objects. I've re-tagged both of them as PD, and I'll {{ncd}} the image on en soon. -- Ddxc (talk) 17:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Image source problem with Image:Swucampus-pic1.gif

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(replying to message on my talk page) - If you want, you could contact the copyright holder and request that they release the pictures under a free license. WP:COPYREQ has instructions on how to do this. But if someone takes some higher-quality pictures and donates them to us, that might be even better. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 05:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Kyushu J7W Shinden.jpg

(replying to message on my talk page) - I don't know. But if that is correct, then the image was improperly tagged and the description should be corrected. Do as you see fit. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 19:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eintopf

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Silly bot you have tagged an addition brought over from another wikiproject. That was OK of me to do. right?? Ooopsies for you! haha Nesnad (talk) 07:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Ring a ring o' roses

Hello. I was curious about your edit of "ring a ring o' roses". I can't read Japanese, so I can't tell from the Japanese Wikipedia whether the translation has any currency there (i.e. whether it is actually commonly sung and played by children). If not, surely there is no need of the translation in the article (there are endless languages into which you can translate a song; but it's not giving any information about it to do so, at least not in an English language encyclopedia). The material in the section at the moment is discussing songs & games which appear to be related by descent.

The Japanese children's game you link to is relevant, although there are a huge number of British / American and European ring dancing games that we don't mention in the article. Really they need their own article, in which the whole world could be taken into account.

Briefly, I'd leave the ref. to the Japanese children's game for now and delete the Japanese translation of "Ring a ring of roses", if it's just a translation someone has made (hasn't become traditional in Japan). N p holmes (talk) 08:35, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I added a brief reply to your comment on my talk page. But if on reflection you don't see that it ought to go (or if I'm misunderstanding something), I'll leave it at that. N p holmes (talk) 13:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

OK. I've read your reply to my reply and think I can see where the misunderstanding is. I added the section "Other Languages" not to put languages into which RAROR has been translated, but related dance songs (if someone had added a modern German translation of RAROR I'd have made the same comment). These independently existing dances tell us something about the age and likely character of the English version (the German, for instance, is attested earlier). I should have given the section a different title, something like "Related singing games in other languages"; that's what it was about, anyway. If I've understood you, a Japanese translation of RAROR is known to Japanese children. In that case, the best thing would be to bring it into the article in the "Current versions" table and retitle the "Other languages" section along the lines I mentioned above. N p holmes (talk) 14:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mindan flag

Thank you for your kind words. Please feel free to correct the font, if you know the one used for the flag. Cheers! Kzaral (talk) 11:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] gojuuon

Hi Nesnad,

Actually, AFAIK the on doesn't come from on-yomi. It's the other way around.

Yi and wu have never been allowed by Japanese phonotactics, as far back as we can trace the language. Ye merged with e while man'yougana was still in use, so there are no historical hiragana or katakana for ye. Apparently, ad hoc kana were created for these CV combinations in the Meiji Era for pedagogical purposes; it looks to me as though ye is derived from e.

In kana charts for Westerners, there are 47 CV kana in 50 cells. However, in charts designed for Japanese children, all 50 cells are filled. The ya-gyou contains duplicate e and i, and the wa-gyou contains a duplicate u. That is, those two rows of the chart are presented as ya i yu e yo and wa wi u we wo. That is because when you inflect a verb ending in yu or u, these are the forms of the inflection.

The question then is whether the name gozyuuon was coined along with the promulgation of the three new kana, or whether it was named after the fact that the chart has 50 cells, and 50 kana/inflections of Japanese verbs, even if three of them are duplicates. I don't know the answer of that question, which would require that we track down Meiji Era government documents unless we can find a summary of the history somewhere. — kwami (talk) 18:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, Nesnad, the hiragana yi and ye are just hentaigana for i and e. Maybe someone decided at some point to distinguish them, but they continued to mean i and e until the war, and probably still do at udon shops and the like. I seriously doubt they were the source of the term gozyuuon. (Note also that there is no hiragana for wu.) The three extra katakana used for pedagogy (how widely? for how long?) are different - they seem to be intentional creations to fill out the chart - but I'd like to see some evidence before accepting that they're the reason for the name '50 sounds', rather than a product of it. — kwami (talk) 05:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)