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[edit] Unreferenced?

I have provided a few more references, no I don't think the article is unreferenced. Please let me know if there any problems with the provided references abakharev 22:19, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] An affair?

Your additions are wonderful. I worked a little on the punctuation and syntax, just minor adjustments.

One thing I'd really like to confirm is the 1805 affair. Almost everything in English is based on the Mary Fleming Zirin translation. Zirin notes that a few men tried to claim they were in love with Durova, but considers the claims baseless. Where does mainstream Russian scholarship stand on the issue? Durova 08:30, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Frankly, I do not know where the mainstream Russian scholarship stand on the issue of the affair. My knowledge of Durova's biography was limited to the Hussar Ballada plot until yesterday. I just retold the story as on the http://www.rulex.ru/01050167.htm (the last reference of the article). The style suggests some later 19th century (or beginning of the 20-th century), but obviously not Brokhaus-Efron Enciclopedia. BTW I noticed that the stories of rulex and BE are quite complimentary - Rulex says that she has an affair with a cossack officer in 1906 and BE says that after an argument in her house she went with a cossack regiment as a Land Owner's son Alexander Durov, then in 1907 she officially enlisted to Ulan regiments as Alexander Sokolov. It can be assumes that she went to cossacks to be with the officer she had the affair with and enlisted with ulans after the break, but nowhere I see this connection made. I am not sure if it is possible to put it in the article abakharev 10:28, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
    • Let's go with NPOV and mention both possibilities. I'll make that adjustment now. Durova 17:33, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nominating for Deletion

Article about a minor historical figure of little interest to general readership that probably doesn't really belong in an encylopedia. --172.165.0.225 16:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

If you want to nominate it for deletion then read this page, but it's rather unlikely the article will be deleted as it does satisfy the notability criteria. Hut 8.5 15:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Some additional sources that could be used in this article
  1. Staff. "Nadezhda Durova Museum Opens in Yelabuga", RIA Novosti, Russian News & Information Agency, May 25, 2005, pp. Section: Culture. Retrieved on 2007-12-12. 
  2. Stanley, Alessandra. "St. Petersburg Journal; Russian Woman Sails Solo in a Sea of Cadets", The New York Times, The New York Times Company, March 27, 1998. 

    Women fought in World War I, the revolution and the civil war. Some even took up arms against Napoleon -- Nadezhda Durova, disguised as a man, became a hussar officer in 1812.

  3. Good, Jane E.. "An Officer But Not a Gentleman", The Washington Post, The Washington Post Company, Jun 26, 1988. 

    In 1806, a young Russian woman named Nadezhda Durova cropped her hair, donned Cossack clothes, rode off in the dead of night and enlisted in a cavalry regiment under the name of Alexander Sokolov. Although 23, she claimed to be 16...

I'll do some cursory searching in some other archival databases and see if I can find anything else readily available. Cirt (talk) 01:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC).

Thanks, Cirt. I was just mentioning to Irpen that this biography could probably make GA with some help from the Russian editors. She wrote four novels that I don't think have ever been translated into English. DurovaCharge! 01:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I no longer have access to the Mary Fleming Zirin translation, but I do have the John Mersereau & David Lapeza translation. If I'm not alone here, which line citation format do we want to use? DurovaCharge! 01:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Might be worth it to try contacting the Nadezhda Durova Museum staff in Yelabuga, see if they have some more knowledge in this arena. Cirt (talk) 01:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Miss Durova what can we do to help a new WikiMedia project out?

Is there anything we can do for them, besides an article on WkiPedia? WikiAsianTravel WikiAsianTravel Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 07:10, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I think you want User talk:Durova. This is the page for discussing our Nadezhda Durova article. Hut 8.5 10:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, I get easily lost..:) Do you know the meaning of Nadezhda, in Russian? Igor Berger (talk) 10:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


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