Talk:Muscle tone

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[edit] Strength, tone, and flexibility

If tone increases as a response to resistance training, this may explain why weight training is sometimes associated with a lack of flexibility (beyond that of actual muscle tissue getting in the way of a joint). Flexibility training, therefore, must be an attempt to decrease tone by allowing muscle to lengthen. Perhaps tone in a stretched position. Really though, if a muscle is totally lengthened, then all it's fibres would be lengthened, and in that position it can't really possess any tone. Supposing tone did affect appearance somewhat, it would still be generally undesirable as it would limit flexibility. Tyciol 16:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the training-induced tone increase might contribute to explaining the lack of flexibility in body builders. However, some scientific confirmation on the fact of the phenomenon would be preferred. Mikael Häggström 06:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bodybuilder image?

I don't know much about this, but from the intro to this article, it sounds as if the bodybuilder picture is completely inappropriate to this article, so it should probably be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.41.216 (talk • contribs)

The image shows someone with considerable muscle hypertrophy and tone - note the pecs are rounded rather than saggy; a partial contraction due to tone. I don't see it as a problem. WLU 22:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with WLU, It's a fantastic image demonstrating the topic of the article. Wikidudeman ^(talk) 22:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

You guys are pathetic and self-serving! That is all. 24.98.18.94 05:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if Wikidudeman and WLU were in cahoots...they seem to be the only ones rabidly defending the spamming of this picture on all the bodybuilding related articles. 24.98.18.94 05:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors per WP:NPA and please assume good faith per WP:AGF. I am not the same person as WLU nor are we conspiring to have that picture in any specific article as we do not communicate anywhere but on Wikipedia and my exchanges with that person are very limited and have little or nothing to do with that image. The image is just a good image and very encyclopedia and is suitable for several articles. Upload a better one if you don't like that one. Wikidudeman ^(talk) 06:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Anon - I can understand your frustration with being unable to address the ideas raised by other editors, but please make comments and argue points based on fact or useful opinions rather than supposition and aestehtic or personal preferences. Note my two comments to a recent editor regarding images on another page - these are better ways to approach problems than insulting and casting aspersions. And again, if you have a better image, suggest it and detail why. WLU 07:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I see the image as great - it shows someone with high muscle tonus. However the description is totally irrelevant to article. And a picture showing low muscle tonus - preferably in the same individual - is almost a necessity to illustrate topic at hand. SmithBlue (talk) 06:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone come up with a better picture. This one is more of an illustration of hypertrophy than of tone. -- Taral (talk) 20:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

This is crazy. The picture has nothing to do with the article - the guy is hypertrophic, yes, but this article is about muscle tone! As the article VERY BRIEFLY explains, muscle tone is very significant in degenerative illnesses, such as cerebral palsy and muscular dystrophy. Tone has nothing to do with body image or muscle strength. The picture is so stupid in the article; I'm amazed it is still there. The comment about his pecs being "contracted due to tone" is laughable - all muscle movement is due to tonal shifts! Muscle tone is reason we still burn calories while sleeping - none of our muscles are ever truly "at rest" until we die (or go under general anesthetic). The picture has nothing to do with anything related to muscle tone; it perpetuates the stupid myth that muscle tone is related to having defined and strong muscles; it isn't. --DreamsReign (talk) 23:35, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar

The following sentence makes sense not. "In terms of skeletal muscle, both the extensor muscle and flexor muscle use the term tonus to refer to the "at rest" or normal enervation that maintains current positions of bones." SmithBlue (talk) 07:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)