Talk:Muinebeag

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[edit] Names

Muine Bheag / Muinebheag / Muinebeg / Bagenalstown.

We could do with a consolidated paragraph on the various names! (< reminder to self). -- Picapica 11:07, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully a little clearer, Irish is a language full of variation. Djegan 16:25, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Grma, a Djegan. Some info (from twin town Pont-Péan) which I am parking here, pending incorporation into the article:

In 1932 the Town Commission passed a vote, officially naming the town Muinebheag, without consulting the people. Some called it one name and others called it another name, and so it was for 43 years. In 1975 Carlow County Council held a Plebiscite so that the people of the town would decide which name it would be. The total poll turn out was only 50% and of that the majority of votes came out for Bagenalstown. But as it was a plebiscite, the majority poll required to carry would have to have been 75%. So officially the name is Bagenalstown-Muinebheag, whichever one you like.

En 1932, la Commission de la ville vota pour appeler la ville officiellement Muinebheag, mais sans consulter la population. Alors certains l'appelaient Muinebheag et d'autres Bagenalstown et ceci durant 43 ans. En 1975 le Conseil Départemental de Carlow déclara un plébiscite pour que la ville puisse choisir un des noms. La participation fut de 50% en faveur de Bagenalstown, la majorité devant être de 75% le nom officiel est donc Bagenalstown-Muinebheag, au désir de chacun! -- Picapica 08:47, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have cited the name, of the town, as it appears in the Local Government Act, 2001 whilst this act does not state that the name of "Muinebheag" is the official name of the town the fact that it names it as such and that the term is more widely used or used in a more prominantly than "Bagenalstown" throughout the Irish Statute Book gives it some weight, also the town council itself uses the former term, the term "Muine Bheag" is used somewhat particularily in older orders whilst "Muinebeg" is unused. Ultimately it is somewhat an academic question, as with many Irish language terms their is a certain amount of ambiguity which is not helped by the differences between old and new Irish and their is info on my talk page regarding recent developments about name of places in Irish and the Official Languages Act. Djegan 19:04, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)