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[edit] When will my motto be closed?

I think the heading says it all. My motto, which can be seen here, has been there for a looong time, and it's been pushed really deep into the 'Awaiting decision' section. Can somebody close it for me? (I'm still fairly new to MOTD.) --EinsteiNewton 06:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving edits

For the sake of simplicity, can we keep all versions of the same motto together until archival, even if some versions are rejected in the process? This namely refers to when one version is rejected and another is reopened. I can't imagine any one person remembering where to move a reopened edit to if its other versions are buring somewhere in the current (or previous) archive. --Tewy 23:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Good idea. Sorry about that, Tewy. Archiving fifteenish mottoes at once gets pretty redundant... *Cremepuff 222* 23:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

You're not alone; this is just another tidbit that I think should be added to the policy to avoid discrepancy. --Tewy 23:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay. *Cremepuff 222* 23:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting closings

Thanks for that, Tewy. It was starting to get on my nerves... :-) *Cremepuff 222* 17:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I left a note on Magnus animum's talk page. --Tewy 17:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Closing script

Hey everyone! I just wanted to let you know that I've created a script to help with minor closings. Please note that it must be used in a section-by-section manner, else wise the script will not work. ~ Magnus animum ∵ ∫ φ γ 23:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Yip Yip. c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 00:08, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Already done mottos

How about we check the upcoming mottos for conformity with the current policies, for example obvious linking to Wikipedia, Special:Mypage, Wikipedians, etc. This should produce better results. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 22:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Let's let that slide, since it would be very tedious to do (unless you have AWB, that is :) ) and since we should only implement that on the mottoes after the discussion was settled. ~ Magnus animuM ≈ √∞ 00:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, your call ;). —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 09:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finish closing procedure, please?

Hello, everyone. If anyone is willing to move the mottoes from the "decisions to be acted on" section to their appropriate places I would be glad. Something has risen in "real life" that's gotten in the way of my closings. I've already closed them, so all you have to do is move them. Thanks, everyone! *Cremepuff 222* 01:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll get on that. --Tewy 02:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Tewy 02:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Tewy. I've already closed today's mottoes! *Cremepuff 222* "As cool as grapes..." 00:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Material

Why does it seem like most mottos are about vandalism? Couldn't there be more variety? Simply south 19:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

They're the easiest to think of because it's the classic good vs. bad, which makes for an exciting story, or, in this case, motto. --Tewy 21:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

);):-> :):):) c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 00:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maybe

Maybe we have to make just a few Special:Random links neither.c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 00:07, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

When we vote, can we make a fixed consensus to be approved, like 3 support votes or 2? and can we make Strong and Weak votes half a vote-worth or double? No time , any...... just a small query. c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 00:12, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I think the biggest problem with that proposal is that there are a very small number of votes per nomination. If there were more votes (at least 10), we could probably use a 2/3 majority system. But as it is, there might only be 3 votes for a nomination, and 1 vote would completely upset the ratio of support and oppose votes. --Tewy 06:01, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

What about the Strong/Weaks? c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 06:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm just saying that at the moment, a "system" such as this isn't practical, because the closer has so few votes to work with. If the system of strictly counting votes was implemented, however, it would probably require a 2/3 majority, "weak" votes would count half, and "strong" votes would count normal. --Tewy 06:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Tewy. c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 05:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination limit?

Hello. I've noticed - and I hope you have - that AstroHurricane001 has nominated about 15 mottoes one sitting as he has done before. This prompts me to assert there should be a limit on the number of nominations a person can make per day/week. Any ideas or compromises? ~ ΜΛGиυs ΛΠIмυМ ≈ √∞ 00:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. But I think it should be very loose, like a guideline rather than a rule. *Cremepuff 222* "As cool as grapes..." 00:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I have asked AstroHurricane001 to reduce the number of his nominations, or at least spread them out over several days. --Tewy 02:44, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but is it really that disruptive? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 11:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

T-borg, it wouldn't be that disruptive if this was the only time, but he has nominated 15 mottoes at a time nearly consecutively (see the nomination page). Doing this takes attention away from the nominations which were nominated before Astro's spree by placing them further down on the page, and giving his nominations more attention, which does seem rather unjust to the people who nominate mottoes frequently. I do agree with Cremepuff222; perhaps we can have a limit (e.g. no more than 3 nominations per day)? ~ ΜΛGиυs ΛΠιмυМ ≈ √∞ 15:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

~~In that case, I support the idea of a nominations per day limit. Thanks for clearing things up. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 15:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)~~

I think a written rule about the number of mottos one can nominate sounds discouraging, especially to someone who has a lot of good ideas. I think politely informing them to slow it down a bit is more than enough to solve this "problem". --Tewy 18:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, everyone. Sorry about the annoyance level of my motttos, I do sometimes have way too many ideas (see User:T-Borg's talkpage). I give a weak support for your limit of 3 mottos a day maximum, and I'll try to put any extra ideas in my sandbox for later use, but that might cause problems, like causing me to hold off using them until later, or causing other people to use it and say it's their idea, which may further prevent me from using them because of the possibility of them having been already used by another user (so if I do setup these mottos on a sandbox, be sure to remove them if you nominate them). I will try to get involved in the archiving business if it doesn't freeze my computer. Sorry for any inconvinence. Thanks. -- A stroHurricane00 1^(T+C+U) 19:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

The page history would allow you to prove you came up with the idea first. --Tewy 19:37, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Changed my mind, better you decide. I probably wouldn't object to anything. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 20:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requests?

Could we have a section/subpage/whatever for people to mention either things they want more mottoes for that they can't think of how to write (e.g. "There need to be more WP:FP mottoes!") or lines they don't know how to turn into mottoes (e.g. "There should be a motto based on a Britney Spears song!")? Confusing Manifestation 02:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Hm…interesting idea. Do you think nominators would respond? --Tewy 03:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Well I know I would. I tend to be more inspired working from a suggestion than just off the top of my head. We seem to need some system for coming up with new foci for mottos since people are constantly complaining of too many vandalism/Britannica/stub to FA/Wikipedian mottos. Confusing Manifestation 04:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] People are finally voting!!

Wow! I'm amazed at how many poeple are actually discussing the mottoes of of recently! That makes my job much easier. :) *Cremepuff 222* "As cool as grapes..." 17:09, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

It potentially makes all our jobs easier, Cremepuff. Anyone can close nominations, remember ;). —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 18:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Now we can employ the "reject if there's no consensus" rule, because there are enough votes, which means less reopenings. --Tewy 19:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What about...

I have an idea. Why don't we request our own project's banner for Template:Wikipedia ads? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T-borg) ^{(drop me a line)} 18:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

That would be nice. I already advertise MotD wherever I sign my signature! :) *Cremepuff 222* "As cool as grapes..." 21:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

REquested.c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre!My name is Maximus Caesar Zabidus 06:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I am making this as we speak. Miranda 13:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Done. Miranda 17:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow, quite a backlog...

I took a break from closing and the motto page is HUGE!! :) Can we form a task aquad to take care of all these nominations? *Cremepuff 222* "As cool as grapes..." 22:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Task aquad?c'mon, we've fished a good one.Kfc 1864 Cuba Libre! 10:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One in particular

Just bringing everyone's attention to a nomination I closed. See Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 6#Water, water everywhere and barely a drop to drink. I changed it to fit with User:Scoutersig's suggestion, which unfortunately came late in the voting process. --Tewy 08:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monthly archiving

What does everyone say to a proposed monthly archive system, rather than starting new ones whenever the old ones become full? --Tewy 08:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Not so sure about that, the current way seems more flexible. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 10:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Soo...I heard that the old 2006 archives should be deleted soon. Should Biblio or I take care of that? « ANIMUM » 21:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Your call, Mr. "New admin" ;). —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 22:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The subpages should be deleted once they've run their course, yes. --Tewy 00:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I will delete all the subpages up to the month of May. « ANIMUM » 18:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Right then, happy deleting! ;) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 20:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I almost forgot to subst the subpages first! But that's been done now. --Tewy 04:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

I am going to change my name if possible, to H135H, and that user is me.c'mon, we've fished a good one.User:Kfc1864 Talk to me 13:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closed nominations

I've closed about 10 nominations that were getting long in the tooth and were obviously accept or reject to me. They're currently on Nominations#Decisions to be acted on, so that anyone who disputes my reading of the reviews can discuss them further before they get archived/moved to the Approved page. There are plenty more that could probably be closed as either no consensus or barely approved, but I've left them for now. Confusing Manifestation 02:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] slooooooowwwwwwdown?

Hi. It seems that less people are actually voting anymore. What's going on? Too many mottos have no votes after such a long time, and a lot of them are good mottos, could it be that MOTD is losing popularity? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 14:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Summertime in the Northern Hemisphere? --Tewy 22:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Yea, either that or writer's block has become a pandemic. :) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 22:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutral or not?

One of the rules for mottos are that they have to be neutral. Yet it seems like there are alot of mottos that include somthing about wikipedia vs britannica/uncyclopedia. That doesnt seem neutral to me. Opinion?--Sunny910910 ^{{talk|Contributions}} 10:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The reason for the inclusion of the word "neutral" was not so much to prevent biased mottos as it was to prevent offensive ones. I agree that the wording is a little confusing, however, is there another way to word it? --Tewy 19:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Next batch

Can someone close all of those awaiting decision or should i? Simply south 19:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

If everyone closes a couple, we won't need a single person handling them all. Hell, I'm gonna do some myself now. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 20:00, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Procedure?

I'm not sure if I've got the procedure for closeing mottos right.

Anyone (non-admins too) can close the the motto
Mottos to be closed are those in the awaiting decisions section
Mottos are:
1. Aproved if consensus agrees it should
2. Rejected if consensus agrees it should or if it has been reopened because it didn't receive enough votes and still didnt receive enough votes
3. Reopened if it didn't get enough votes or if there was no consensus reached.
Then the motto and everything under is moved to the decisions to be acted on section regardless of whether it was approved, rejected, or reopened.

Tell me if I got it right (or wrong)--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 14:12, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

You've got the idea, but there are a few minor things. First of all (and you can argue against me on this), I think that if a motto has a whole bunch of votes, but there's still no consensus, it should just be rejected, for the reason that it may cause (did cause) controversy. Second, the "In review" subpage, the "Awaiting decision" section, and the "Decisions to be acted on" section, as well as the other MotD subpages are all used to assist the closer. The "Awaiting decision" section, for instance, is used to clear out the "In review" page, and the "Decisions to be acted on" section is like a holding tank for mottos that have been closed, but not moved to the approved or schedule pages yet. But all of these steps lead to the final act of putting the motto into its own subpage on its own day (e.g. Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 1, 2008), and displaying it on the schedule page. If you wanted to combine a few steps, such as rejecting a motto and moving it directly to the archive, or approving a motto and moving it directly to its subpage, skipping all the other steps, that would be fine. If you want to do several mottos at once, however, it might help to pause, and place them in one of the sections before proceeding. Or if you wanted someone else to archive the mottos, you might want to close them and leave them in the "Decisions to be acted on" section. All I'm trying to say, though, is that the different sections help with the process, but are by no means necessary.

Other than that, yes, you are correct. Anyone can close nominations (this was made very clear after the downfall of "overseers" earlier this year), mottos that have enough votes but haven't been closed yet should be in the "Awaiting decision" section, and all closed mottos, regardless of whether they were approved, rejected, or reopened, may be moved to the "Decisions to be acted on" section (although reopened mottos may need to be moved back to the "In review" section more speedily). Assuming that you're looking to close some mottos, thank you for your interest; we can always use more closers.

Oh, and if the instructions are unclear, feel free to reword them! It's a long, complicated process to close mottos, and anything that can be done to simplify it is greatly appreciated. The same goes for MotD policies.

I think that covers everything. --Tewy 18:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Mottos get subpages? Or are you meaning the page with the motto calender? Simply south 20:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Approved mottos are placed into their "own" subpages for use on the MotD templates. I gave an example of what a motto subpage looks like, Wikipedia:Motto of the day/January 1, 2008, which contains only the raw formatting of one motto. These subpages are used in the templates to update daily, and display on the schedule page. --Tewy 22:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I think I'll just be doing the closings. Thanks again.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 09:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Can someone close the mottos PLEASE??? Pretty please, with ∞ cherry ice cream sundaes on top? Seriously though, we have mottos that were nominated/reopened as far back as July!!! Summer vacation is over, so shouldn't people be closing mottos, now that they're not busy doing summery things, or has editors' block really become a pandemic :S ? I'm too busy right now to close so many, especially considering there's more than a month's mottos to close! Has someone forgotten the 2-week closing rule? HELP! Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 00:52, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, there have been some more important stuff lately, like the recent obliteration of nonfree images from "List of" articles, those need the attencion, but we should gradually be able to close them, maybe we can see if some of the newer contributors are free, some are probably just worying about procedure. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 01:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Script usuage?

~~How do you use this closing script:~~

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//Created by [[User:Magnus animum]] to make MOTD maintenance work more easy.                             //
//Note: To close nominations using this script, it MUST be done section by section. If you want to mass  // 
//close, I suggest that you do it the old-fashioned way — manually typing the outcome of the nomination. //
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
function closemottonom() {
  result = prompt("What was the result?");
  reason = prompt("Why?");
  document.editform.wpTextbox1.value = document.editform.wpTextbox1.value += "\n" + "'''" + result + ":''' " + reason + ". " + "~" + "~" + "~" + "~";
  document.editform.wpSummary.value = document.editform.wpSummary.value + result + ": " + reason;
  document.editform.wpMinoredit.checked = false;
}

function closemottotab() {
  addTab("javascript:closemottonom()", "close nom", "ca-close nom", "close nom", "close nom");
  akeytt();
}

addOnloadHook(function() {
  if (document.title.indexOf("Editing Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations") != -1) {
  addOnloadHook(closemottotab);
  }
});

//

~~--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 17:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)~~

Nevermind, doesn't work on IE.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 00:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow...

I can't believe how large this project has gotten... *Cremepuff 222* 02:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you mean that the backlog has gotten enourmous, I agree.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 00:37, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closed mottos awaiting decision

I've just closed all the mottos in the awaiting decision section, if someone could move some of the mottos in the in review to awaiting decisions or finish the ones in Decisions To Be Acted Upon section, it would be appreciated.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 23:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I've noticed that alot of mottos had to be "rejected after reopening" because there wasn't enough votes. And some of them were acually pretty good, seems like getting more voters is a problem...--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 23:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, we already have a banner (see above), what else is there? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 00:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I dont know, I've already just added advertisment for MOTD on my signiture. Perhaps we could add MOTD on the main page, it might work but...People might not favour it...--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)Neither will alone, or strenght alone} 00:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Not sure about that sig idea, some may see it as spamming. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 00:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, whats your opinion on the mainpage idea?--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)Neither will alone, nor strenght alone} 00:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deffinitely too trivial a project, considering that no other project seems to be even mentioned on it. Maybe a suggestion at the community portal, though that won't stay up forever, it should bring some more people (we shoud say new mottos are welcome, but we're more in search of voters). —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 00:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The idea doesn't seem very welcome: Wikipedia talk:Community Portal/Archive 12#Motto of the day (although this does refer to actually placing the motto of the day itself on the Community Portal). --Tewy 02:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I see. Well, thanks anyway.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)Neither will alone, nor strength alone} 03:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Um, could someone close all the mottos that were last opened/reopened more than 2 weeks ago, because some of them are way overdue. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 12:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, you guys better be thankful that I have some time on my hands now. ;) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 02:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for moving the "In Review" to "Awaiting Decision".--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions)} 03:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

No prob, and please don't kill me if I goof somewhere. ;) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 04:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, you have two options now, either you can wait 'till this afternoon for me to finish the rest, or someone can do that themselves. But make sure to place reopened mottos after the first motto for October 14, 2007. We do have to give it a chance, don't you think? :) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 04:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Done! Finally! Phew, well, that wasn't too painful. Now, ladies and gentlemen, would you please, GET TO VOTING, NOW!!! ;) —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 17:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, guys, could someone close the mottos after this one, minus the last, just noticed they're overdue. Thanks. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 00:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I support\I oppose

How many supports or opposes are needed for a motto to go through or be rejected? And is it okay to relist some from archive? Simply south 10:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, it's based on consensus, but how many votes are needed for that, I'm not sure. Up until now three support votes minimum and no oppose votes has been the requirement. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 10:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Explanation

Yes, "Rock beats scissors, paper beats rock, wiki beats paper." is a used motto, but, I have a good explanation (I hope). See, with each new nomination, the risk of a motto, similar to, or worse - the same as, either unintentionally or not, a past nomination grows. That's why I nominated this motto, as a sorta "pop-quiz", so we can get a general idea of overall dilligense. I'm not saying we check the archives for each nomination, only for us to be on alert. This could be implemented in the future, if you like the idea. That way, we can keep ourselves in check. Eh he he, please don't kill me. ^_^' —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 06:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not sure, but if I remember correctly, I think I've seen a motto already used before, renominated as almost the exact same, approved, and re-added to the scedule. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 00:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closing time

Hey, it's getting to be that time again, guys. Ready for closing nominations? —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 20:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I've just moved the ones needed to the Awaiting Decision section. Simply south 20:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Well well well! I didn't expect that fast of a reaction! Nice work! —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 20:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about 14 days. The ones i moved were originally proposed over 30 days ago. Simply south 21:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

So? We close like normal. We shouldn't reject just because of that. —May the Edit be with you, always. (T|C) 21:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I know. I just though the timing things were in the review section were 14 days. But it doesn't matter and i could be wrong. Simply south 12:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remembrance day motto

I've got a motto for next remembrance day.

In [[about:wikipedia|Flanders fields]] the [[WP:STUBS|poppies]] blow
Between the [[WP:USERPAGE|crosses]], row on row,
That mark our place; and in the [[metawiki|sky]]
The [[m:stewards|larks]], still bravely singing, [[WP:REVERT|fly]]
Scarce heard amid the [[WP:WARRING|guns below]].

We are the [[WP:RETIRED WIKIPEDIANS|Dead]]. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
[[WP:WIKILOVE|Loved, and were loved]], and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The [[WP:RFA|torch]]; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break [[WP:AGF|faith]] with us who die
We shall not [[WP:WIKIBREAK|sleep]], though [[WP:STUBS|poppies]] grow
In [[about:wikipedia|Flanders fields]].

I'm too lazy to find the correct links so I'll let you guys finish it. I hope you guys like it.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions|Guest)} 20:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, it's pretty cool 'n all, but I think it'd be a stretch if this made it, I mean, isn't it a tad too long? —T-borg (T | C) 22:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Well if anybody has any need for it, it'll be here.--Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions|Guest)} 22:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Desicions

Hi. I decided on some of the mottos. However at one point I messed up and accidentally deleted the long nordo... word. Can someone restore the word and act on the desisions and move them to in review or the motto listing place and such? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 01:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It's fixed, but didn't you mention in your comment you memorized it? ;) —T-borg (T | C) 01:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I did memorise it, but it's just that it's hard to get the accents correct. The spelling without accents is mermoriseable: nordostersjokustartilleriflygspanningssimulatoranlaggningsmaterielunderhallsuppfoljningssystemdiskussionssinlaggsforberedelsearbeten. To recite (speak) the spelling without accents takes me about 17 seconds. Anyway, enough bragging, but I was going to add more desicions until this happened and I had to go to bed. Well, it looks like not enough people are doing desicions. I could add more, but it looks like the new proposal makes it not going to. How about if a clear consensus is not reached within four weeks of the nomination, it is rejected? How about a total of +2.5 or above for approval? Support is worth +1, weak support worth +0.5, neutral worth 0, (if people said one thing then crossed it out and changed their vote, only count their most recent vote) Strong support is worth +1.5, something that shows very strong support is worth +2, weak oppose is worth -0.5, oppose is worth -1, strong oppose is worth -2, FUI is worth -5, submerge in kettle of sulfuric acid, etc, is worth -3, withdrawn is worth -10, if there is a comment without vote but they're leaning towards either liking or not liking it, give 0.3 in whichever direction, and count it as an actual vote if they have a bolded support or oppose, etc, in their comment, and neutral leaning towards support is +0.3, neutral leaning towards oppose is -0.3, Abstain is worth -1.5, and you cann add more to this if you wish. How about whether or not someone has reopened it, within 2 weeks, it gets rejected if it's below +2.5, approved if 2.5 or above? How about it gets reopened within 2 weeks, and regardless of whether or not it was reopened on time, if the motto is four weeks old or longer, decide on it eith approve or reject. I know some of this belongs farther below, but I don't have time to do so. What do you think? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 18:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I think more than two people should discuss this, so I'm going to wait for the others to join in. :) —T-borg (T | C) 23:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

I'm not trying to get out of work here but how about this: the mottos that didn't get enough votes/clear consensus, that are now in the "Awaiting decision" secion get failed. My reasoning is this: the "In review" page just got shortenned big time, and with these mottos reopening it's gonna get cluttered up again, and as we know, little people are going to be willing to go through all the nominations, in a way it'll be a new start, we may even get more activity by posting a reminder we're not dead on the community portal. Well, any thoughts? —T-borg (T | C) 01:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Please see my comment in the above section and remember that most of the mottos in the awading decision section are more than four weeks old and would get rejected anyway. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 18:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This is getting crazy

The list is growing and growing, while past nominations are becoming older and older on the list. If the rule is that there is no consensus after 21 days, the more than half of the list should be removed, right? They really should be either archived or removed from the list. Any other opinions? iMat thew 20 08 17:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The problem is, nobody seems to want to close them anymore. This is ridiculous. I've tried to close a few, but I haven't time to actually move them or close them all because there just so darn many. The thing is, we need people to close them whenever they have time. I tried to vote on them and stuff, but I haven't had much time. Is this project rotting away? I hope not. If you have time, and have read the procedure for closing, then close the mottos (that you haven't voted on) if you wish. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 18:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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