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[edit] I think a split into 2 articles should happen

A book article (if the book is that notable) and a film article. As of now, it's just one cluttered article of descriptions of both. RobJ1981 20:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Damian's PLAYHOUSE?

In the book, Damian constantly proclaims that his den, or "playhouse" as is said in the article, is a HERMITAGE. I haven't just changed it in case anyone disagrees with changing it, though. Jake95_(talk!) 18:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Millions DVD cover.jpg

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[edit] Classification as a Christian Film

The film is clearly Christian. Please refrain from altering its categorization.Vordabois 05:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia page offensive to Catholics

This Wikipedia page is offensive to Catholics.

It refers to the Biblical Saints appearing before Damian as "hallucinations".

I'm a Catholic, and I was raised to believe that people of very deep faith can actually communicate with saints, angels and virgins. In my native country of Argentina, there's a woman, Maria Livia, who communicates with the Virgin Mary in a mountain in Salta, and people from all across the country go to see her.

So, to refer to messages from God as "hallucinations" is offensive to my religion. Agustinaldo (talk) 14:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)agustinaldo

If this is a word used in the movie to describe what he sees, then this is just describing the movie, as it should. If this word (or variation) isn't used, then the article should be edited accordingly. — Val42 (talk) 04:51, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree, "hallucinations" has been used in some reviews, but in the context of the movie "vision" is a better description, I think. -- Arwel (talk) 11:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

In the scence where Damian meets his mother, he says "I know your are a dream, but thats OK". Suggesting that the visions are not "real". In any case the word vision is better as it is neutral and doesn't suggest either way whether the saints and his mother are real or not.194.200.145.5 (talk) 10:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Themes" section

I propose to scrap the entire "Themes" section; all of it is either repetition of material presented in the plot summary, or else could be incorporated into the plot summary, or else is original research:

Damian, after trying to help people with it, chooses to burn it because he realises that the money has caused all sorts of problems, and most importantly that it was stolen in the first place and that it would be wrong to keep it for personal gain.

The switchover from the pound sterling to the euro is fictional, as in real life the United Kingdom still uses the pound.

This is redundant, and has already been stated in the plot summary.

The movie is a commentary on the issue of world poverty; particularly in Africa; as well as the spiritual poverty of affluence.

this film poses the age-old question of what one would do if they suddenly received a large windfall

This is original research.

In the final scene we see Damian's dream of the family flying a rocket ship to Africa and helping develop water wells, which earlier in the movie is shown to be the most crucial and cheapest way to drastically improve the quality of life for many African communities.

This should just be moved to the end of the plot summary, IMO.

The only thing left is the tagline, "Can anyone be truly good?" Seems this could either be moved somewhere else or removed.

If no one objects by tomorrow, I'll go ahead and make these changes. --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 05:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Can somebody explain to me why the movie apparently ends with an improvised carboard trip to africa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.132.24 (talk) 06:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Basically, the world that existed before the climax is completely different from the one after. (Remember the stark difference between the scene at the train tracks and the bright, beautiful cheery next day?) Hounded by uncertainty throughout the film, Damian finds a truth, makes a stand, and his dreams live on undefeated.

http://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/films/films.php?id=9631 <-- A pretty good review focusing on the nature of miracles. Combine it with Ebert's quote:

"The closing sequence is a bit of a stretcher, I will be the first to admit, but why not go for broke? One of the tests of sainthood is the performance of a miracle, and since Damian is clearly on the road to sainthood, that is permitted him." Vordabois (talk) 07:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The use in money, etc.

The term millions in plural form is often referred to in money, amount of people etc. So I added a dabnote, which I'm surprised about since it hasn't been there for all those years. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 06:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)