Talk:Military of Georgia

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the flag is wrong. it is the Battle flag. Geagea 22:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Gea. You're correct. This is the Battle Flag officially reffered to as the Main Military Flag. --Kober 04:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Active troops 2 Graphic of the Army Structure 3 6% of GDP 4 Istanbul agreements 5 M87 Orkan 6 Tbilisi headquarters 7 Equipment of land and Air Forces

[edit] Active troops

"40,000 Active troops" and "21,468 troops" what is the difference? Geagea 23:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic of the Army Structure

I'm currently working on a project to create graphics of the structure of the most important Armies. i.e. French Army; German Army; Italian Army I also want to make a graphic of the structure of the Georgian Land Forces, but the information at this point is not sufficient, as there is no information how the units are structured (i.e. which Regiments/Batallions belong to which Command/Brigade, what type of units they are…) Does anyone have this information- and also the Regiments/Battalions names and/or numbers and where they are based? Thanks noclador

I added today the graphic of the Structure of the Land Forces, which contains all the information that I could find, BUT the units of all 5 brigades are missing and if someone has information regarding these units, please share them, so that the graphic can be updated and finished. thanks, --noclador 23:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 6% of GDP

Where is this from? The CIA world fact book gives much lower percentage - 0.59% (2005 data) [1]. I doubt it could've risen 10 times in one or two years (actually the year is not specified in the article). The possible answer is that the share of the budget is given. Then the figure is too low (the International Crisis Group report on Abkhazia gives 15.9% (see page 21) for the year 2006). Alæxis_¿question? 11:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Istanbul agreements

Were any deadlines for the withdrawal of Russian forces from Georgia set in these agreements? Alæxis_¿question? 06:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

No, but the agreements obliged Russians to define the deadline within three years (i.e. within the period of 1999-2002). The Kremlin did not agree to the schedule until 2005-2006. --Kober^Talk 06:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide a source which describes the 1999 agreement? If not, saying without explainings that Russia violated some international agreement, is POV. --Eurocopter tigre 07:43, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

These are the very first hits yielded by a quick search through Google and Google Books:

• In a recent seminar at the Kennan Institute, a panel of experts discussed the prospects for implementation of the 1999 OSCE Istanbul summit decisions committing Russia to withdrawing its military forces from Moldova and Georgia by December 31, 2002. The consensus of the panel was that Russia would not succeed in fulfilling its obligations by the deadline, but progress has been made and, given Russia’s continued commitment to the goals of the 1999 decision, the prospects for further progress are good. Nevertheless, Russia’s failure to meet the deadline is of serious concern, and not only to Moldova and Georgia.[2].

• NATO continues to insist on full implementation of the political commitments (which are not legally binding) that Russia undertook at the 1999 Istanbul OSCE Summit to resolve the questions related to compliance with treaty host-state consent requirements in Georgia and Moldova. The following are among the remaining unfulfilled "Istanbul commitments":

[...] in Georgia: the conclusion of a Russo-Georgian basing agreement that defines the terms and duration of the Russian military presence in Georgia. Engaging Russia As Partner And Participant: The Next Stage of Nato-russia Relations By Robert Edwards Hunter, Sergeĭ Mikhaĭlovich Rogov, pp. 13-14. ISBN 0833037056. --Kober^Talk 08:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I've linked the actual agreement text between Russia and Georgia in '99 as note 3 of the current text. Cheers Buckshot06 21:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] M87 Orkan

There are no M87 Orkan MLRs in Geiorgian Army. Bosnea wanted to sell their Orkans to Georgia, but Georgia didn't bought them. Kos93 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kos93 (talk • contribs) 12:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Bosnia has no Orkans, only Croatia and Serbia do, Croatia has 4 and Serbia 3 or 4, Bosnian Serbs had 2 but these were originally Serb Army Orkans and were returned back to Serbia in 1995.

Only 8 Orkans were built in 1987-1990 period, originally JNA requirements were around 24 and Iraq around 48.

[edit] Tbilisi headquarters

Are they really to be withdrawn in 2008? I had an impression they've already been evacuated. Alæxis_¿question? 21:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Equipment of land and Air Forces

I don't know who wrote the numbers of equipment in service but that's pure fanatsy. dendirrek (talk) 07:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)