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This is perhaps a bit too chatty and needs work, but I think it's valid as an article or I think it's just as valid as most anything in Category:Television characters by series. I mean we have Category:Histeria! characters, which is a show that only lasted two years and was doesn't even have its own category.--T. Anthony 07:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- I worked on it some, possibly making it too formal, so I hope the creator of it's not mad.--T. Anthony 07:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Nice work, but was she really drinking when she slept with O'Malley? I thought it was after bomb guy, etc so she was just frazzled.--T. Anthony 15:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- She slept with George at the end of "Yesterday" (which was the episode after the bomb ordeal). She had gone to see her father for the first time in 20+ years, it didn't go well, so she went to Joe's and wound up drinking with Mark Sloan before going home, where George and his incredibly bad timing were waiting. DarkandTwisty29 21:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Referenced Rampage
You may see in other Grey's Anatomy's character pages that I had put this tag:
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I want to improve these articles so I'm asking for those willing to help to find sources to back up these information. Omghgomg 12:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Is a "Quotes" section necessary?
Personally, I feel that a "Quotes" section clutters the page and takes away from it stylistically. There is an excellent, extensive collection of quotes from Grey's Anatomy, including those from this character, in Wikiquotes, and it seems like overkill here--just like the ridiculously long list of "Mc"-phrases on the main Grey's Anatomy page. I think that adding a "Quotes" section to individual character pages is not necessary, and counteracts the encyclopedic style we're supposed to strive for with these articles. Where do we draw the line with quotes? What constitutes a defining quote from a character? A funny one-liner? A long "aria" explaining personality, past, motives? It's a very sticky area, and I think if we keep this "Quotes" section, it's going to open the door for any Jack or Jill to add every single remotely interesting line (and not always quoted properly or spelled correctly) ever uttered on the show, and this page will lose the clean, relatively organized and concise feel that it is.
This is especially true in the case of Meredith Grey, whose voice-overs begin and end most episodes, and are (in my opinion) among the most quotable and quoted words from the show, without even mentioning her one-liners and speeches ("pick me", "She's got my McLife", etc). If this quote section stays, it threatens to grow longer than the biographical section and make this page look horrible.
I spent a lot of time working on this page and the one for Derek Shepherd, so I understand the sentimental value attached to one's work, which is why I'm opening this discussion. When I worked on these two pages, they were very disjointed and offered very little information or stylistic improvement from the shorter biographies on the Grey's Anatomy character page. I changed all that, spent hours of my own time rewatching episodes for factual accuracy and organizing the information into a concise biography that while offering more than the blurbs on the character page, wasn't bogged down with poor grammar, syntax, or superfluous information, especially including quotes. They've come a long way and I'd hate to see them become cluttered and unorganized again. There is a place for Grey's Anatomy quotes--on Wikiquotes, and I propose that they stay there rather than bog down the character pages. Any opinions on this? DarkandTwisty29 21:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Problem with dividing history by "seasons"
Grey's Anatomy's seasons differ among countries. In the U.S., the first season includes the first nine episodes, ending with "Who's Zoomin' Who", but other countries showed the "complete" first season as it was originally intended to be shown, ending with "Bring the Pain". Dividing character history by "seasons" doesn't take into account the fact that the events in question happened in different seasons dependent on country. DarkandTwisty29 19:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] NOT Medically Dead
I noticed someone else started to post this and removed it--I think it warrants a place for the time being.
Meredith is not legally or medically dead. She will not be so until another doctor "calls it" and announces a time of death. A dead character (Denny) telling her she's dead in what may be "heaven", a vision, a subconscious dream, or a near death experience, among numerous other possibilities, does not make her dead. All that is known is that she is hypothermic and asystolic, and I have edited the page to reflect that. Until and unless she is medically declared dead, the page should not say she is.DarkandTwisty29 06:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removing "Dr." from title sentence:
I have changed the title sentence from "Dr. Meredith Grey is..." to "Meredith Grey is..." based on the Wikipedia style manual for biographies, which dictates that academic or professional titles should not precede the individual's name in the article. I also checked with the Wikipedia articles on several real-life physicians to verify that this was the convention in use. The body of the article and the infobox provide sufficient evidence of Meredith's possession of a M.D. degree. DarkandTwisty29 18:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Who lives in Meredith's house:
I've had to edit this several times over the past few days, and different individuals keep changing it back. In assuming good faith, I will guess that these are individuals who have not yet been able to watch the full third season. However, as of episode 3x18, "Scars and Souvenirs", which has aired in the United States and Canada, Alex Karev is a resident of Meredith Grey's home. George had moved out prior to episode 3x15 "Walk on Water", leaving his room vacant as he moved into the Archfield Hotel with his new wife, Callie Torres. Alex moved in and took residence of the room that George once lived in. The rent paying housemates are Alex and Izzie, not Izzie and George. DarkandTwisty29 22:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What is included as a "relationship" in the infobox?
I just removed "George O'Malley (sexual encounter)" from the relationship section of the infobox. A one-night stand hardly counts as a significant "relationship", in my opinion. Certainly the encounter with George was a significant incident, especially in the nature and course of their friendship, but it happened once, and was pretty much immediately recognized as a mistake on both ends--not a romantic relationship or dating situation, as Finn and Derek are. Because the encounter itself was significant, it is included in the character history of the article, but I don't think it warrants inclusion as an infobox "relationship". If the category were called "Significant Physical/Sexual Encounters", it might be a different story, but the bottom line, the category is "Relationships", which George wasn't.
Furthermore, even though George is a significant ONS and a main character of the show--he was just a one night stand. Meredith has had a lot of them, but adding "Steve Murphy" (priapism guy) or "Hairy Back Guy" or "Tattoo Man" or "Guy from Joe's at Thanksgiving" or whoever else it was shown/implied Meredith slept with is just...overkill. If one ONS is included in the infobox, it sets precedent for all the rest, and in the grand scheme of things, those flings aren't important enough to compromise the concise intentions for the infobox.
All just my opinion of course, feel free to discuss or disagree with me. DarkandTwisty29 04:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removal of trivia section
I've removed the remaining "trivia" items in keeping with WP:TRIVIA. I've been working on the section for several weeks and have integrated what I could, but essentially, the remaining items are "especially tangential or irrelevant, and may not warrant inclusion at all." (From WP:TRIVIA). In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter what the license plate number of Meredith's car is, or whether she likes Chinese food (and I'm the only who actually put that there, so I'm deleting my own content along with others'). Sure, they're fun tidbits to know, but they're not encyclopedic so it's best to remove them. DarkandTwisty29 18:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What about her age?
On the page we currently have "late 20s-early 30s" for Meredith's age. But I think she must be at least in her 30s if we do some calculation. Her father Thatcher left when Meredith was five years old, so his daughter Lexie with his second wife must be AT LEAST five years younger than Meredith. Lexie is now a surgical intern, which means she has already completed four years of undergrad and four years of med school. Under normal circumstances with normal school ages, Lexie should be at least 26. If so, that puts Meredith at an age of AT LEAST 31. So how about "early 30s" for her age? Chopsticks 07:37, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- The problem with Meredith's age basically amounts to a problem with continuity on the writer's part. Your calculations are definitely correct, but I could use her age when Thatcher left (5) and Richard's statement to Ellis in "Bring the Pain" ("We had this discussion twenty-one years ago"--regarding leaving their spouses for each other) to make an equally valid argument that Meredith is 26. (On top of that, it's been said several times that Meredith/Alex are older than the others, making Meredith at least 28, in which case I could speculate that Lexie, being super-smart as she's been described, could have graduated high school a year early (age 16), taken summer courses/AP and finished undergrad in 3 years (age 19), and then gone to 4 years of med school, making her 23 and the requisite 5 years younger than Meredith. That does, of course, go against your condition of "normal" circumstances.)
- Yes, it doesn't make sense with Lexie suddenly being added to the cast, but because there have been conflicting indicators, and equally valid methods of calculating Meredith's age based on clues or statements w/in the show, I personally feel that offering a range that encompasses all possibilities is the best route. We may be given a definitive answer eventually--Addison's page read "late thirties-early forties" until we were given her age as 39. Cristina's age was specifically revealed as 28 on the OR board during her ectopic pregnancy. Meredith's age has never been explicitly revealed, and due to sloppy, contradictory writing and lack of timeline continuity, it's impossible to try to figure it out precisely based on fan calculations (although, again, yours are correct--as are mine). It's just my opinion, of course, but the late 20s-early 30s range best represents all possibilities. 74.244.66.152 01:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why the OVERVIEW is removed?
I came from other Wikipedia and i am wondering why you remove the Overview thing? I mean i am admireing on your Wikipedia because is full information and very rich but i could say that definetly our Wikipedia is better organized and we know why some important things are removed its just isn't fair. And please could you separate the Character History on seasons. And please back the Overview or just please explain me why removed it. I like every wikipedia to have about every character from every Tv Show Background, Overview and Character History separated in seasons. Please just explain me why?
