Wikipedia talk:Mentorship
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[edit] Involuntary mentorship
I don't think that the label "Involuntary mentorship" is quite right, although for some of those involved in one they may fee; that they are involuntary since it is usually offered as a "take this mentorship or it's likely you'll be banned" proposition. Unless someone can come up with a better label, I would suggest changing it to "Negotiated mentorship" or something similar.
I think that you also need to note that for both types of mentorship there needs to be a very clear understanding from the very beginning on what is expected during the mentorship and what the responsibilities of each individual are. I think that the main reason that Netoholic's mentorship failed is that everyone—ArbComm, each mentor, and Netoholic—had different ideas and expectations of how that mentorship was supposed to work and what the results were supposed to be. BlankVerse 08:53, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Voluntary mentorship
I just posted this at Wikipedia talk:Editor review, but I have been trying to find places to refer another editor for assistance with some sort of guidance, mentoring, or coaching (call it what you will), suitable for someone who is relatively new. There does not seem to be any sort of equivalent to Editor Review or Admin Coaching for less experienced wikipedians. Editor review might be too harsh a process for someone trying to learn in the early stages, and Admin Coaching is far down the road. Whether or not "Admin Coaching" is intended to help editors become admins is beside the point; the name probably discourages editors who are not looking to be admins yet, but to be editors. If people could brainstorm for some sort of voluntary "wikicoaching" or "wikimentoring" program, it might help develop and assist a lot of new users. Agent 86 04:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What's the difference?
So what's the difference between Mentorship and Adopt-a-user? --lEoN2323 21:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, it does sound the same. It could be easier if Menotrship was devoted to "involuntary mentorship" and Adopt-a-user was devoted to "voluntary mentorship". It certainly would make it sound more appealing to volunteers, as it wouldn't make them appear (at first glance) to have been forced into it by a violation. Just a random idea.
--HAL2008 20:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Community
The community should be able to place a user into mentorship, as an example, I'm about to unblock a user if they agree to mentorship. I've added this in here. Mercury 12:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Is there any obligation for the Mentor to disclose?
Is there any obligation for the Mentor to disclose the relationship when advocating? If not there should be. I was involved in an awkward situation this morning in which I mistook a mentor for a sympathizer of an editor I believe to be behaving inappropriately. A trip to ANI could have been avoided if the relationship had been disclosed by the Mentor when acting as advocate. --Pleasantville (talk) 19:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't get it. Mentoring is (usually) an informal thing- we have no need to be aware of mentorships or treat anyone any differently because of them. Even when someone is forced into being mentored, this means they need to change their own behavior accordingly. The rest of us don't particularly need to care about it. Friday (talk) 19:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
I removed the merge template that's been on the page since last July, evidently the merge didn't go forward. I think the problem probably was due to the dual nature of this page. While "voluntary mentorship" obviously dovetails with Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User, I don't think the involuntary type fits there at all. Perhaps the voluntary part of this page should be removed and hatnote disambiguated to Adopt-a-User, leaving just the involuntary portion- at which point this page should probably be renamed something like WP:Editing moderation or some such. —Ashanda (talk) 07:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
