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Medal of Honor: Airborne was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: November 9, 2007 |
The weapons section doesn';t state if you lose your weapon's experience/upgrades if you dump it in the field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.33.21 (talk) 00:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- You keep your upgrades, even if you pick up a different weapon. Geekboy72 22:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Copyvio
All the stuff recently added is a cut and paste from many web sites. See this google search: [1] Thunderbrand 19:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Free-Roaming Segment
I added that. I've done research on the game and EA says it is considering adding it. 65.255.130.104 02:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)VonV
[edit] No Airborne for Wii
Medal of Honor Vanguard is for the Wii [2]
- What about the PS2? Or is that also only Vanguard?
[edit] Wii
Medal of Honor Airborne is not for the Wii. Medal of honor Vanguard is for the wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.28.118 (talk • contribs)
[edit] At this point, it Is still possible
Nintendo Power is a very accurate Magazine. Until EA confirms it isn't for Wii, the NP article should not discredited outright. I personally own the issue in question, they were even assured by EA that it (airborne) was still a Wii title, before going to print.
[edit] Spam
I am going to erase the spam in the weapons section. User:Pheifdog May 29, 2007 5:50 Pm est
[edit] Re-edit
I have re-edited the page in a way I think everyone will be happy with until EA officially comments on this issue. I've taken steps to try and get an official response. Please read it thoroughly, don't just erase it outright.
- Firstly, please sign all comments. Secondly, please add proper formal wikipedia referencing to all uncitated comments. According to the official website, and the creators of the game itself, EA, Medal of Honor: Airborne will only be released in 2007 on the XBOX 360, PlayStation 3 and PC. Without conformation from a first party source, the comments about the Wii do not belong on the wikipedia article. Medal of Honor: Airborne will not be released on a console that is incapable to support its engine. Therefore, a slimmed down engine was used to produce Medal of Honor: Vanguard. I have removed mention of the Wii on the article. Unless EA officially state that the game is comming to the Wii please do not in future add it again. Thanks. Stickeylabel 07:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. The Wii is not capable of running the Unreal 3 engine; therefore any Airborne game on the Wii would be substantially different to the version on the PC, 360 and PS3. It doesn’t make sense to me that EA would develop the same game for such different hardware platforms. HalHal 17:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] It not comeing to the xbox
It has been canceled http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/medalofhonorairborne/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.28.118 (talk • contribs)
[edit] FINALLY!
There's a release date, or will that get delayed also?
I heard that the game was delayed until November. --Phbasketball6 12:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
September 4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.66.201 (talk) 18:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Second Playable Character
In the article that mentions the Unreal Engine, there is evidence of a second playable character. Perhaps we can incorporate that into the article? Knight45 22:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Airborne is definatley not coming to the Wii
Stop adding the Wii as a platform for this game. Airborne uses the Unreal Engine 3 which is not compatible with the Wii, therefore it is pretty much impossible for Airborne to be released on the Wii, aside from the fact that EA just released MoH:Vanguard for the Wii, and you generally don't release two games from the same family at the same time.
See: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/08/mark-rein-says-no-unreal-engine-3-for-wii/
"Ummmmm, well, this is kinda a high definition engine. Designed for a certain level of graphics card and certain amount of CPU. You know, I'm sure one of our licensees will squeeze it down into the Wii. The way Ubisoft squeezed Unreal Engine 2 into the PSP," he explained in a little bit more detail exactly why the Wii and Unreal Engine 3 won't become best buddies, "Unreal Engine 3 is designed for a high level shader architecture and the Wii doesn't have that. I mean, you know, it's just not what we've been aiming for, so it's not something we're looking to do or support." -Mark Rein
And:
http://gamespot.com/wii/action/medalofhonorairborne/index.html
"Release Date: Canceled"
And:
http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/751/751607p1.html
"Medal of Honor Wii Clarified Nintendo's newest is getting the WWII shooter, but it's not Airborne. by Daemon Hatfield
US, December 19, 2006 - When it was announced last summer that Electronic Arts was bringing Medal of Honor to the Wii, many assumed it would be a port of the forthcoming MOH: Airborne, which is debuting on every other system next year. Not so, apparently, as today EA announced the Wii's MOH title will be called Medal of Honor Vanguard."
-HalHal 01:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Another source, can't get much more official than this:
Medal of Honor goes only for PS3, Xbox360 and PC. How about Nintendo Wii?
Patrick Gilmore: No, we have just released Medal of Honor Vanguard for the Wii. I think that Wii is such a unique platform, that we wanna do something unique with the controllers with the franchise.
- From here: http://www.mohcenter.pl/wywiady-interview-with-patrick-gilmore-r228.htm
- -HalHal 00:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] drivable jeep
didn't they say early on there would be a drivable jeep? was that dumped? ZookPS3 23:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
There are no driveable priviledges in the games —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.66.201 (talk) 17:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] System requirements
Today I saw MOH:A's system requirements on the Planet Medal Of Honor forums, they are official System Requirements from EA, these are the following:
XP SP2
- 2.8 GHz Intel or +2800 AMD - 1GB RAM - 6600 GT Nvidia card (some slower GPUs with higher model numbers also not recommended) - X1300 Pro ATI - 128M VRAM
Vista
- 3.0 Intel - +3800 AMD - 1GB RAM - 6600 GT Nvidia card (some slower GPUs with higher model numbers also not recommended) - X1300 Pro ATI - 128M VRAM (256 is better)
Shader Model 3.0 required
Can I put them in the page? - guest
EDIT: sorry, I see that you guys already put the SR.
[edit] A possible October release?
I know that the developers have said the game will be out for the PS3 in November, but both Amazon and Yahoo Games show 2 October 2007 as the release date. Is it possible that the game will come out sooner than said, or are these two sites a bit slow in updating their info?
Here is Yahoo's info: http://videogames.yahoo.com/ps3/medal-of-honor-airborne/
And Amazon's info: http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-Medal-Honor-Airborne/dp/B000PE0HAY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/002-5237303-0809651?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1184782861&sr=1-3
Hope to see some clarification. Knight45 18:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Awkward
When the green light comes on in the C-47 in the trailers, they jump with the hooks, when they're supposed to remain in the plane. And I think you have movement control when the green light comes on, too. Don't you think that's weird?
[edit] Source engine?
Calling the graphics/game engine the "Source engine" makes it sound like a Source engine game. It should be renamed to avoid confusion. HertzaHaeon 15:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, I used the same article template as featured articles such as Half Life 2 and that's where it came from, I'm not too great on the technical stuff :-) --Joowwww 09:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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- It is already renamed to game engine. --SkyWalker 13:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merger proposal
I have proposed that the articles Boyd Travers and Medal of Honor: Airborne Soundtrack be merged back into this article. Both articles have been simply copy/pasted out of the main article and are not really notable as per WP:Notability, as they do not provide real-world context, sourced analyses, or details of impact or historical significance. Furthermore they have not been wikified and do not conform to WP:MOS, and contain little or no references as per WP:Attribution. --Konasr 13:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge Boyd Travers but not the soundtrack. The article of the soundtrack is perfectly fine. I really think that merges are sick. It really spoils wikipedia and the content of it.--SkyWalker 13:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge them both; Boyd Travers isn't notable, the information on the soundtrack article can be put into a section on the Airborne article, however if a lot more information about the soundtrack is provided then it could be worthy of its own article. --Joowwww 13:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- The soundtrack article is perfectly fine. I created for two reasons 1). To cut down the size of the main article. The 2nd) reason is for the article to join this club [3]. What sort of notable this soundtrack needs?. Is this enough?. What sort of more info do you want to add in soundtrack?. There is already more info avaliable in that article. --SkyWalker 13:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I've added a basic overview to the old section while saving specifics for the article. --Joowwww 19:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- The soundtrack article is perfectly fine. I created for two reasons 1). To cut down the size of the main article. The 2nd) reason is for the article to join this club [3]. What sort of notable this soundtrack needs?. Is this enough?. What sort of more info do you want to add in soundtrack?. There is already more info avaliable in that article. --SkyWalker 13:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Merge them both; Boyd Travers isn't notable, the information on the soundtrack article can be put into a section on the Airborne article, however if a lot more information about the soundtrack is provided then it could be worthy of its own article. --Joowwww 13:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Health System is Not Unique
The health system used in Airbourne is not unique. It was also used in Pariah in exactly the same way. If no one has any objections im going to edit the article. Nikzbitz 12:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- It is also the same as the health system in resistance fall of man, or at least very similar
- It's similar, in Pariah, you don't need to find cover and hide, all you need to do is run around and you still get healed, but it's only if you get damaged in the third, second or first bar. It doesn't happen in the fourth. (I think, I haven't played in a long time) Pvt. Green 03:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] problems
my game won`t start it says that something is wrong with my wizard, a can´t install the game —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.228.254.141 (talk) 20:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Change of release date for the Playstation 3
The date has been pushed back to the 19th of November according to IGN and Gamespot. I have the sources right here:
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/692/692471.html- IGN
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/medalofhonorairborne/index.html?tag=result;title;2- Gamespot
Can someone be kind enough to incorporate these into the article? Thanks. Knight45 04:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Weapon Experience/Levels
In the current Weapon sub-section, the weapon upgrades are described as being part of ranks in "Marksman" for regular weapons and "Sniper" for sniper rifles, along with a reference. Is this actually correct? It seems that all weapons have the same Marksman, Sharpshooter and Expert Sharpshooter ranks, parallel to that of US armed forces marksmanship levels. --Scottie_theNerd 05:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
- That's right. There is no sniper commendation, at least on the PC.
[edit] Merging Boyd Travers
As of current, the Boyd Travers article contains a very brief mission outline of Airborne. The article reveals nothing about the character; only details on what the player does in the game. Additionally, the game has no development on Travers other than a promotion. As Travers does not meet the requirements for WP:N, I propose that Boyd Travers be redirected to Medal of Honor: Airborne. --Scottie_theNerd 11:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] GA/FA
I was quite surprised when I read this article and found that it's not even a Good Article. I think that with a bit of expansion it could be a Featured Article. In the meantime, this article is certainly worthy of a good article. --Simpsons fan 66 07:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Nominated for GA. --Simpsons fan 66 02:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Finale
The article states that the finale takes place during Operation Varsity, while the PC version's last level is actually Der Flakturm. Would it be possible to get the article unprotected so I can add this info? 144.135.138.40 06:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- The mission title is "Der Flaktrum", but it still takes place within the real-life Operation Varsity campaign, even though MOHA's mission is a fictional event. --Scottie_theNerd 07:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] GA review
As this article has supposedly been "under review" for 2 weeks i will review it for you.
"And the 11th installment of the critically acclaimed Medal of Honor" - critically acclaimed glorifies the the subject and is WP:POVPlease add fair use rationales to each of the copyrighted images describing why you believe it is covered by fair use (Look at Halo for examples]]as opposed to previous linear FPS games where the start point and direction is already laid out. - Giving an example of previous MOH games which had linear play would help re-enforce the developers were going for something different as this article focuses a lot on the paratroop drop. Make sure to reference itThe game begins in 1943 with a drop into a small walled village as part of Operation Husky, the costly Allied invasion of Sicily, followed by Operation Avalanche, the invasion of mainland Italy, where Travers is inserted into an operation near the Greek ruins of Paestum, which was used by the Axis as a staging area to counterattack the advancing Allies from the beaches of Salerno. This is one sentence, trim it down to 2 or 3 so it doesn't drag on so much.The main gameplay element of Airborne is the jump - i don't like this sentence how about something like - The main gameplay element which is introduced in Airborne is the paratroop jump/drop - so its clearer to understand and introduces the topicThe picture of the jump can have an expanded caption to like 'Airborne introduced the gameplay element which allows players to choose where in the map they land by steering their parachute' As fair use is getting stricter and better reasoning for pictures is required.Players canalsoinstantly - remove redundancyA wide range of historically accurate weapons is available in Airborne, Is quoted incorrectly, the reviewer says "sounds, accuracy, recoil, damage, and rate of fire for the weapons all seem well done, historically accurate, and relatively balanced." So he isn't saying the weapons (look) accurate but the way they act. Also, I'm not sure how one review saying they are accurate allows such a statement to be made. For example if someone reviewed a CD saying it was "the best cd ever" then i could write" 'CD' is the best CD ever in the article right? Say something like, Bob of website.com believed the recoil etc etc were all historically accurate.removed itHowever it was felt that they didn't, didn't -> did not - to remove the contractionAnti-cheat - a one sentence section is not written well, it needs to be expanded or merged with another sectionsummit in July 2007, Linking July 2007 is pointless as the article does not mention thismusical scores - please link this to the appropriate articleaward-winning Michael Giacchino, what award? is it notable enough to be calling him award winning?who also composed scores for some of the previous Medal of Honor games, Why not tell us which games?Airborne soundtrack has been said to be, by whom?The See Also section is to introduce wikilinks which do not exist in the article - EA, WWII. FPS, MOH Series are all linked in the first sentence of the article thus making this section pointless. I don't know what list of video games has to do with this article..?Not required for GA but alphabetizing the categories keeps it organizedReferences 34 to 38 need formatting for publisher, date and retrieve dateI notice none of the web references have retrieve dates
Add |accessdate= and just use today, this is for web archive purposes
Dates should also have their own separate line and not be on the publisher line
|date= , when adding a date (such as today as an example) 2007-11-01 and wikilink the date and it will turn out as November 1, 2007 when viewing the references.
If you disagree with any of these feel free to comment, i gave it a more thorough review as it could soon be up at WP:FAC and people will point these things out. M3tal H3ad 03:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- I did all the minor things but we need more dedicated people to address the bigger stuff. --Simpsons fan 66 04:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've adjusted the article to address the points above. It still needs a bit of updating but I will do that today. --Joowwww 13:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I've updated the patches section and added lots to the reception section. I've tried to keep it as NPOV as possible, just stating the facts of how people feel, and tried to reference everything I can. Please take a look at it to include it in the GA review. Thanks --Joowwww 14:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- The reception section was very threadbare, I was wondering if someone was going to pick up on that. Excellent work on the expansion and other tasks.Someone another 15:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've updated the patches section and added lots to the reception section. I've tried to keep it as NPOV as possible, just stating the facts of how people feel, and tried to reference everything I can. Please take a look at it to include it in the GA review. Thanks --Joowwww 14:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not doing the GA review, but I will caution that looking at the references, there's a few questionable items:
- None of the references cite authorship of the original work. Some of these are obviously impossible (gametrailer videos, for example). However, reviews and news from IGN, 1up, etc. have authorship and should be added (either "author = " or "first = | last =" tags in the cite web templates.
- There's a few references citing forums as key support. This is not recommended, even if they are factually accurate. Unfortunately, finding verifiable sources for some of the complaints that forum users have had will be difficult, but to make the article better, it may be better to drop these complaints if none can be found. --MASEM 16:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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- The sheer scale of dissatisfaction with the game is certainly worth mentioning, however I understand that forums aren't the most reliable of references. I will try to find some better sources. --Joowwww 21:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Every game has people complaining on forums, and i do mean every. The reception section doesn't seem to discuss the critic's response to the paratroop drop which seems like a big part of the game. M3tal H3ad 03:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Soooo.... M3tal H3ad 07:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I've lost all motivation to write about this game any more. It really is rubbish. I guess I should have waited until I actually bought it before spending any significant amount of time researching and writing. A mistake I won't be making again. I know this is awaiting a GA review and I'm sorry for abandoning it, but I can't write about something I don't want to. --Joowwww 14:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, the only remaining problem was using fan forums as a source to point out problems in the game, which are not reliable sources. M3tal H3ad 05:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I've lost all motivation to write about this game any more. It really is rubbish. I guess I should have waited until I actually bought it before spending any significant amount of time researching and writing. A mistake I won't be making again. I know this is awaiting a GA review and I'm sorry for abandoning it, but I can't write about something I don't want to. --Joowwww 14:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Soooo.... M3tal H3ad 07:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Every game has people complaining on forums, and i do mean every. The reception section doesn't seem to discuss the critic's response to the paratroop drop which seems like a big part of the game. M3tal H3ad 03:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The sheer scale of dissatisfaction with the game is certainly worth mentioning, however I understand that forums aren't the most reliable of references. I will try to find some better sources. --Joowwww 21:04, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] multiplayer
I'm confused about how many players can play together online. A website ad I think said 32 for the PS3. Is this right?--Playstationdude 13:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Flakturm
The Germans with the gas masks were a bit on the sci-fi side, all things considered. However, there were huge concrete, rebar and armored structures called "flak towers" or, Der Flakturm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakturm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.7.18 (talk) 04:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wallpaper
Does anyone know where I can get a wallpaper with the cover picture featured? --91.113.68.169 (talk) 21:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
