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[edit] Crowley/LaVey

Although the spelling of "Euronymous" was taken from the Satanic Bible, I thought he expressed contempt for both Crowley and LaVey. The Satanic influences came from other sources, such as notably the holy bible; "For serious information about real Satanism read the Holy Bible and forget the goodness of LaVey and his life-worshipping followers." See here , here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.156.150.7 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC).

That's what I'm lead to believe as well XdiabolicalX 18:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

What a concidence --83.70.106.119 23:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'm rephrasing that part in the article.

[edit] Real names?

Can't we find some real names for any of these guys? I mean, c'mon - Count Grishnakh?

- Jaochai

Count Grishnakh's real name is Varg Vierkines (sp?) he is also in the one man band Burzum

[edit] Nomenclature

Both "Mayhem" and "Mayhem (musical group)" should be redirects to "Mayhem (band)" to maintain clarity on the issue. All wiki pages regarding bands should have the "(band)" suffix for specificity.

Nyght 18:21, May 22, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Origin of 'DMDS' title?

According to some interviews with Dead, he seemed to believe 'De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas' is an actual ancient book. Was it ever mentioned in other sources, or was he inspired by the Necronomicon or De Vermis Mysteriis?


[edit] Can this be checked

I think that Blasphemer real name is Rune Erickson and not Rune Eriksen as it says in the article. This can be verified on
Official Mayhem site, in metal-archives and on several other sites. Interesting part is that on BNR Mezzerschmitt article says Erickson, but on BNR Mayhem says Eriksen??? What the fuck! Please respond with your thoughts, comments and words of enlightement! Death2 01:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Erickson also on allmusic and discogs. Death2 11:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
On both Ava Inferi's albums (his side project) he is listed as Rune Eriksen. See also Ava Inferi. --NorthernDrifter (talk) 23:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maniac's Departure

"This frustrated his bandmates and it is rumored that Necrobutcher signaled his departure from Mayhem by kicking him down a flight of stairs after he (Maniac) had gotten drunk before a gig and was unable to remember the lyrics."

Can someone get a source for this, it doesn't seem like something Necrobutcher would do, from what I know of him he seems a rather nice, un-violent bloke. I also read in various publications that Maniac left as he was not interested in touring to the extent of which Mayhem tour and I have never once heard of him suffering from stage fright, why would he be a singer in the first place? And he is now also in a punk band which again you wouldn't do if you had stage fright.--XdiabolicalX 19:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Another thing I just noticed Dead didn't kill himself in the basement of Helvete. He did it in a hut at the back of a cabin type house where the band was living at the time.--XdiabolicalX 22:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


There's an excellent article at [1] which states that it was Blasphemer (not Necrobutcher) who kicked Maniac down the stairs (as well as smashing his face into a wall a couple of times). The article includes an interview with Necrobutcher, in which he says "Blasphemer actually came and asked my permission beforehand." He then confirmed the part about Maniac's stage fright. The interview was done during Mayhem's 2005 tour of Norway, which would seem to indicate they are not currently banned there (as questioned above). --Geemarcus 18:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I have read about this, but in the web site, they say some stuff about thanking Maniac for all the time he was in the band and they were going to miss him, etc., check the site for that.Wayavas1337 20:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The 'True' Mayhem

Is 'The True Mayhem' title mentioned in the opening statment just the name of the official website rather than an AKA? Some crowd know as 'Mayhem Communications' are loking for, ahem, $750,000 for use of mayhem.com. Coil00 02:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dawn of the Blackhearts

Dawn of the Blackhearts was not released by their record label against Euronymous's will as the article states. It was a bootleg that had the blessings of the band. This article is in need of some serious fact checking. Euronymous originally intended to use the cover picture from Dead's suicide scene as the cover for DMDS. Necrobutcher objected to this, as he was a close friend of Dead, and that was the reason he left the band prior to the recording of DMDS. Since the image was not used as the DMDS cover, it was used as the cover to Dawn of the Blackhearts

[edit] Bias

The opening paragraph of this article is ridiculously biased

--203.114.179.177 06:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reunited musical groups?

When has Mayhem ever really not been a band? If one is to take their "hiatus'" into account then the band is barely a band. Even after the death of Euronymous they continued. -- Death666 17:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

They spilt up for about 4 years between Euronymous' death and the release of Wolf's Lair Abyss, as Hellhammer was the only member left, Attila being a session musician only. Diabolical 18:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Demos

This mythical "Voice of a Tortured Skull" demo should probably be removed. It's highly doubtful it even exists; note it's not even mentioned on the official site discography which is quite comprehensive. In any case it's certainly not an official demo, and I'd challenge anyone to prove otherwise with pictorial or interview evidence.

Most people try to rationalize the existence of this "demo" by claiming the mixed/unmixed sides of "Pure Fucking Armageddon" were previously available as seperate tapes. But there's no evidence that any such demos exist. The band sent Metal Forces magazine a press kit (see the original "PFA" demo review in one of the early issues) and this demo is not mentioned in the brief band bio the reviewer did.

[edit] thetruemayhem.com hijacked...

Obviously, if you take a look at http://www.thetruemayhem.com the Mayhem site isn't there anymore. Probably some lazy webadmin who hasn't been paying the bills in time. People's incompetence is shocking... ;) Guess they won't get that domain back now, unless they come up with a lot of cash to buy it back. Now, does anyone have an alternative site address, or some info on what's going on? --Unsound 09:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, found the site at http://www.moonfrost.net/mayhem/ ... I updated the address in the article. --Unsound 09:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
http://www.thetruemayhem.com is back online. --Unsound 12:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] is this a joke?

"most extreme metal fans (as well as critics) consider the group the greatest metal band in history" i'm continually amazed at the nonsense that is accepted into articles on this site. does anyone actually believe that mayhem, or any individual band, would be regarded as the greatest metal band in history by more than 50% of "extreme" metal fans? 123.3.22.207 09:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)Liam

Yeh this line really annoyed me as well, no citation, very impartial, almost certainly not true. Personally I don't know any black metal fans that consider Mayhem the greatest band, in fact a large number of them think they're rubbish, but it's not really relevant to the article anyway.86.144.56.33 10:51, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
The problem with this kind of claim is that black metal is divided between elitists, who will turn their backs to a band for making an album that sounds different than the old style, or that has good production and doesn't sound like it was recorded an a bathtub with a $10 computer microphone (this isn't hyperbole, people really do think that the production should be kept unclear and muddy,) and to give a relevant example, criticized Euronymous for being too technical and proficient in his solos, and fans who aren't so extreme. The less extreme ones tend to be the Mayhem fans. I removed everything after "... widely considered to be one of the cornerstones of the black metal movement," because that is indisputable fact rather than the "greatest bands of all time" argument that, in my opinion, has no place in an encyclopedia. GWBBQ 18:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mayhem Logo.png

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Done/ ≈ Maurauth (nemesis~☆) 15:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recurring Vandalism

A quick glance at the IP address and recent acts of vandalism leads me to believe that 67.171.111.19 should be send a warning or blocked from editing. -- Branko 02:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


You can leave him a warning yourself on his talk page by writing {{subst:Uw-vandalism1}} on his page to display:


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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

Maurauth (nemesis~☆) 15:10, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hellhammer's arm

hellhammer had his armed injured so the american tour was cancelled.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=74966


[edit] 1983 or 1984?

Check the interview references, there is one where Euronymous said MayheM was formed in 1983...with Necrobutcher.Wayavas1337 18:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dawn of the Black Hearts bootleg first release

Refering to the official Mayhem website, the Dawn of the Black Hearts bootleg was first released in 1995. Wikipedia says 1991, but I think it's inaccurate. I'd like to add Mayhem website is an almost exhaustive and quite reliable source.

So guys, do you think too it's better to rely on official Mayhem info? Od1n 02:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Up for deletion

This page: A Tribute to The Black Emperors is up for deletion. Travb (talk) 07:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mayhem Logo.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mayhem current lineup.jpg

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[edit] What happened to the official Mayhem - Website?

Does anyone have an idea? www.thetruemayhem.com doesn't exist anymore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.58.93.114 (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gayhem

"Gayhem" redirects to this article. Not my kinda music, so anyone here know if Mayhem is ever called that? Looks like vandalism to me but thought I'd check before tagging it. — FIRE!in a crowded theatre... 20:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


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