Talk:Mats Sundin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or if there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard.

This article is within the scope of the following WikiProjects:

WikiProject Biography     (Rated B-Class) This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. Biography Portal B This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ] This article is supported by the Sports and games work group. It is requested that a picture or pictures of this person be included in this article to improve its quality. Note: Wikipedia's non-free content use policy almost never permits the use of non-free images (such as promotional photos, press photos, screenshots, book covers and similar) to merely show what a living person looks like. Efforts should be made to take a free licensed photo during a public appearance, or obtaining a free content release of an existing photo instead. WikiProject Toronto      (Rated B-Class) This article is within the scope of WikiProject Toronto, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Toronto articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. B This article has been rated as B-class on the quality scale. High This article has been rated as high-importance on the importance scale. WikiProject Sweden (Rated B-Class) The article on Mats Sundin is supported by WikiProject Sweden, which is an attempt to improve the quality and coverage of Sweden-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page; if you have any questions about the project or the article ratings below, please consult the FAQ. B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. High This article has been rated as high-importance on the importance scale. WikiProject Ice Hockey     (Rated B-Class) This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Ice Hockey, an attempt at building a useful ice hockey resource. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit the article attached to this page (see Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ for more information). Edit this message Ice hockey Portal B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. More information: Related task forces: Sweden Ice Hockey task force

Contents 1 Stanley Cup 2 Sundin Photo 3 Sundin in Sweden 4 Oct. 31, 2006 edit 5 Penalty Box cameras edit 6 Wifes' Picture? 7 Mats vs Mattias 8 Mats vs Mattias 9 Mats Sundin reaches 500th goal with third of a hat-trick

[edit] Stanley Cup

For all of the accolades listed for Sundin, shouldn't it be noted he is yet to win a Stanley Cup in his otherwise impressive career? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.9.242 (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sundin Photo

Someone just reverted the UP TO DATE NHLPA main photo back to the version from 2003 for absoloutely no reason. I've reverted it back. If you have a problem with the photo then please comment here. --Tykell 02:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Where has his photo gone? Has the NHL disallowed posting them? I noticed Kaberle's photo and others are missing too The Hobo 18:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hobo, Wikipedia admins have decided to be anal morons and have determined that since we aren't making an effort to go out and get a "free photo" of the athletes, even though the NHLPA has allowed these images to be used here, that the photos are illegal to be used on wikipedia. --Stukov 22:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Just because the NHLPA has not specifically asked for the removal of the photos does not mean they have given us permission to use them. Their terms of services explicitly state that their photos are not freely redistributable. --Wafulz 02:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

It would be pretty weak if they were just being anal morons, maybe I'll write a letter to the NHLPA asking if we can have permission.. I find it's honestly very useful to have the pictures there --The Hobo 03:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

---

I think the fact that he was the first non-Canadian player to captain the Leafs is an interesting tidbit that could be added to the article. I'd do it, but I'm not sure exactly where is would fit in, so I'll leave it to someone else Priester 04:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I added the fact that Mats Sundin has won three World Championships with Team Sweden to the International Play Section. I also corrected a typing error: Sundin was a member of the Canada Cup All Star team in 1991 not 1992 (there was no CC Cup in 92). Felix

@ Priester: I think there should be a section called "Trivia" like there is on other athletes' pages. If I knew how to edit stuff, I would put it in. Will R.

Wikipedia is trying to eliminate "Trivia" sections, such facts if regarded as encyclopedic value it should be worked into the article. --Krm500 22:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sundin in Sweden

Added a bit in the International Career about his standing in Sweden.Sundin has played in the olimpics quite a few times.

[edit] Oct. 31, 2006 edit

I removed that he was traded to Quebec for Goulet and a draft pick. Of course he can't be traded to the team he is already on. Previous versions of the article say he was drafted by Hartford and then traded, but the NHL web site says he was drafted by Quebec (I added the reference). I assume the Goulet trade didn't happen or was for someone else.

I don't see a big problem saying he's considered to be one of the greatest Swedish players ever, but since someone asked for a citation, I just removed the sentence. It's clear from the article how great he is.24.68.180.163 08:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

No, he was definitely drafted by the Nordiques (they had him, Nolan, and Lindros all in a row)- you were correct in removing that. Goulet was also on the Nordiques in 1989, so I don't know how that trade would make sense.

About the greatest Swede thing- I found this, but it says he's one of the greatest forwards of the last 15 years, so I don't know if it'd quite work. The HHOF website might have something, but their search is down right now. --Wafulz 14:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Why are you retards not allowing me to post the fact that Mats Sunin supports The National Democrats in Sweden?? He's a proud Swede, and you may not agree with his politics, but that does not mean you should hide the facts!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.137.104.115 (talk • contribs)

1. Be civil on talk pages
2. No personal attacks
3. Provide a source
4. It's not even relevant to this article. He's not very political to begin with- he's a hockey player, so unless he regularly donates large sums or frequently campaigns for them, it's not necessary to have the information here. --Wafulz 03:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penalty Box cameras edit

Does this count as a source? [1]
I guess that's only one (of probably more) incidents and it wasn't said in words, but I did find it funny. --The Hobo 18:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I can guarantee that I've seen it happen several times, but yeah, we need a published source for this. Otherwise it's more of something that fans have noticed (ie this video attests to it happening once). Given the frequency of his hatred of penalty box cameras, it'll only be a matter of time before they dedicate an intermission segment or mention it in a story somewhere. I also don't think it should be in the article unless the media picks up on it- right now, while humourous, it's largely trivial. --Wafulz 18:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wifes' Picture?

Do we really need one first off and 2nd off their are at least thousands of kids that go on this page and do they really need to see such an exposing picture? We don't even have a picture of him but his wife has one?

That was vandalism. It's not his wife/fiance. It's a porn actress.-Wafulz 13:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mats vs Mattias

Someone wrote his name is not Mattias. Isn't Mats a shortened version of Mattias? If so, it should say his name is indeed Mattias.

Sorry about this.Somehow it got posted twice.

Norum 06:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mats vs Mattias

Someone wrote his name is not Mattias. Isn't Mats a shortened version of Mattias? If so, it should say his name is indeed Mattias. Norum 04:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

04:28, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No sources indicate that his name is "Mattias"- it should stay as "Mats".-Wafulz 05:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I just looked it up and Mats is not a short version of Mattias. They are, indeed, two different names.

Norum 22:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mats Sundin reaches 500th goal with third of a hat-trick

Sorry to be pedantic guys but Brett Hull also reached his 500th with the third of a hat-trick, you even have that on his wikipedia page. So there are 3 players (Sundin, Hull, Messier) that have done this, not just Sundin and Messier as you have in your article.

Here is another ridiculously hilarious reference that proves Brett scored his 500th in a hat-trick.

[2] Brett Hull hits 500, December 22 1996

White Ox 33 07:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)