Talk:Mariane Pearl
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This article was nominated for deletion on March 15, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep. |
[edit] Biography
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Mariane Pearl is indeed the widow of a famous person. She is also a journalist in her own right. However, how she had endured, survived, and suceeded following the kidnapping and brutal decaptitation of her husband, ten days before the birth of their only child, does merit her bio being included in Wikipedia.
I do not know personally Mariane Pearl. But, from research I have conducted concerning her life, I can attest that Ms. Pearl is a woman and a journalist, of profound moral and spiritual courage. Her story doesn't only deserve to be told and shared in this forum, it needs to be told.
To delete it would be to delete a valuable part of our contemporary history. "To forget history dooms us to repeat it." We cannot forget this part of history. Gd forbid it should be repeated. 63.214.55.226 (talk · contribs) 17:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chinese Cuban ancestry
Although it's not included in the article directly, the quote we have sourced from the film director director in Salon about her having "a quarter Chinese" ancestry is apparently in error. Reading this article she wrote about her mother and the quote from her memoir in this Washington Post article, it's clear that her Chinese Cuban ancestor is her mother's father's father, i.e. a great-grandparent, of which we all of course have eight.--Pharos 07:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- These are good references. I used them in Mariane Pearl and A Mighty Heart (film) and recalculated the fractions where they had been specified in the latter. — Athaenara ✉ 00:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Just to be 100% clear I got this from statements she makes about her mother in the Glamour article "She [her mother] grew up with a father who was a handsome mix of Cuban and Chinese…" and the quote from her memoir with is included in the Washington Post story (I don't have access to the book to check but I'm sure the Post is reliable) "She [her mother] was colored, and she had a Chinese grandfather."--Pharos 05:00, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category
I removed the category Afro-Caucasian from this category as I believe it is pure original research. We have "Dutch-Jewish, Afro-Latino-Cuban and Chinese Cuban ancestry" in the article. I see nothing in the references cited to justify the notability of this category; I don't see how we can go from "his Dutch-Cuban-French wife" or "My mother’s story began in a tiny emerald-green house in a poor neighborhood on the outskirts of Havana. She grew up with a father who was a handsome mix of Cuban and Chinese" to saying the subject was Afro-Caucasian. I have African origins, as do all human beings, but I would not call myself Afro-Caucasian. How many generations should we go back, how small a proportion of an ethnic ancestry and how slim the evidence of coverage counts as belonging to this category? However as two editors have placed the cat I will not edit war over it but invite discussion here. --John (talk) 04:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- You never give up, do you ? ;) Well, since miscenegation is an important topic, I don't see why people wouldn't want to be informed about it. Apparently, you don't have a problem with her being "Dutch-French" or "Chinese-French". Actually, she is Afro-Caucaso-Asian, but this category has yet to be created. :) Ms Pearl's "African heritage" is relevant, since it sparked controversy about Angelina Jolie being cast in her part, so the category is justified. I've just added a reference. Cheers, Wedineinheck (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- There were several weeks of edit warring last year when a few single-purpose accounts were adding that Orville Lloyd Douglas piece, which does not have its facts quite straight, to the article about the Mighty Heart film. Some of that spilled over on this blp and the article about the Mighty Heart book.
