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Contents 1 Hoax? 2 Old talk 3 The Scotsman plagiarism 4 You're the Top 5 Image:Margaret, Duchess of Argyll (image 2).jpg has been listed for deletion 6 Image:Margaret, Duchess of Argyll.jpg has been listed for deletion

[edit] Hoax?

This article needs verifiable sources. I removed the alleged "Baron von Brabus". -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       18:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old talk

this may have been a change in degree rather than basic predisposition - LOL!

Does Duncan-Sandys have a first name? -- Zoe

I suppose he must, but I haven't seen it yet... probably with his head somewhere, but I'll keep looking! -- Someone else 00:56 19 May 2003 (UTC)

It looks, from Google searches, that his name was Duncan Sandys, no hyphen, Duncan being the first name. Is this possible? -- Zoe

I've got it now (found it by looking for his wife, Diana Churchill), It's Edwin Duncan Sandys (1908-1987), though it looks like he used Duncan and not Edwin. So his name would be (Edwin) Duncan Sandys. But his title would be Lord Duncan-Sandys, I think, with the hyphen (not that it makes any sense, but that's apparently how they named it when they created the title for him). -- Someone else 01:15 19 May 2003 (UTC)

Hm. Do we want to link him as Edwin Duncan Sandys then, or leave it at Lord Duncan-Sandys? -- Zoe

I think probably leave it as "Lord Duncan-Sandys", since it seems to be the way he is best known. If I get enough to actually write about him, we can always create a redirect at Edwin Duncan Sandys. -- Someone else 01:20 19 May 2003 (UTC)

PPS: If we can locate a headless photo of him, he'll definitely get an article.<G> -- Someone else 01:21 19 May 2003 (UTC)

My dictionary of biography (which admittedly has been known to err) says he was Duncan Edward Sandys. The hyphenisation of his name when he was made a lord, by the way, is what they often do to ensure that the lord's title is unique -- either that or make them "Lord So-and-so of Somewhere". But I think the conventions on use of titles would have him under "Duncan Sandys", not "Lord ...". Deb 21:50 20 May 2003 (UTC)

FWIW, Burke's Peerage 106th Ed. calls him "(Edwin) Duncan Sandys, PC, MP (LP as Baron Duncan-Sandys), so created 1974". Not that it doesn't err, too!. I'm content to leave the naming to anyone who finds out enough about him to write an article. (I could certainly not predict from the current conventions on use of titles what that article might be named). -- Someone else 21:59 20 May 2003 (UTC)

Also FWIW, I would agree with Deb that Duncan Sandys is the best option: it's a name he used, and used during the period mentioned here, as opposed to being a title bestowed afterwards. And a name he was known by. So I'll make the links here point to Duncan Sandys: at the very least it needs to be a redirect (from [[Baron Duncan-Sandys]]? -- Someone else 22:12 20 May 2003 (UTC)

I've just done a full article on Duncan Sandys. I'm aware some reference books have his name as Edwin Duncan Sandys, and others as Duncan Edwin Sandys. It's presently the latter. Incidentally I know his grandson, Duncan John Winston Sandys. Dbiv 00:19, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] The Scotsman plagiarism

FYI, The Scotsman newspaper seems to have plagiarised ths article for their story For sale - portrait of a 'lady' who frolicked with the headless man

The article most definitely plagiarised the article, particularly the article's last three graphs. I ought to know. I wrote them for Wikipedia! 67.142.130.19 14:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] You're the Top

... mentioned by Cole Porter in the words of his hit song, 'You're the Top,'

Certainly not by name though Lady Astor is [1]. Is there a confusion her or have I missed something? Cutler 11:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

She is indeed mentioned, as "Mrs. Sweeny." Check the lyrics again.67.142.130.19

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