Talk:Manus O'Cahan's Regiment (English Civil War)

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[edit] Formating and Layout

I've asked the original article creator to take a look at breaking the paragraph text down into more sensible chunks, on the grounds that he should no roughly where they need to be. I've already made a start on wikifying the links for him. --Hikari 15:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Cheers Hikari. Advice taken - much appreciated (User:arthurchappell

[edit] Page needs work

Firstly, well done to the creator[s] of this page. However, some serious work needs to be done on it.

Firstly, the title should be changed, O'Cahan's men fought in the Scottish Civil War and never set foot in England. They participated in the Wars of the Three Kingdoms but not the English Civil War. In fact the article as a whole needs to be linked to these pages.

Secondly, the origins of O'Cahan's fighters seems to have been missed. This was a regiment raised by the Irish Catholic Catholic Confedeation, which ruled most of the country from Kilkenny during the civil wars. It was sent to Scotland as part of a deal agreed between the Confederate's Supreme Council, Randal MacDonnell (Earl of Antrim) and the Royalist James Butler, Earl of Ormonde, who was Charles I's representative in Ireland. Thy were not mercenaries or gallowglass.

There are also a few more minor changes I would like to see made. I'll be back to this article later.

Jdorney 23:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for this Jdorney - As you can see I now mention more of the regiment origins. Several historians refer to them as Gallowglasses. There certainly were soldiers of fortune among them. I have used English Civil War from its familier usage but I shall emphasise its controversy. I have added details of the voyage from Ulster too. User:arthurchappell

There's quite a few red links on the page still, some of which are down to incorrect linking (a couple of which I've corrected) but the others could do with being created. There's not an excessive number of red links, but there's enough for them to stand out; especially as some of them are terms which could do with being explained, such as Gallowglass and Irish Charge. I'm sure there must be a page on the Covenant that's suitable to be linked to as well.--Hikari 01:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Firstly I have very rarly heard it called the war of the three kingdoms before, the English civil war is by far the commonest term. Secondly divisions were not used by any army ( as far as I know ) until at least a century later ). Finally this reads a little like POV by a descendent. Perhaps soemone else can comment? 145.253.108.22 15:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scots-Irish?

not really.... It now seems to means "Ulster Scots", Papist Scots no, Presbyterian yes, protestant Irish (Magennis, Mcusker) yes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kindred of St. Columba (talk • contribs) 04:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)