Talk:Malësia

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Contents 1 General comments 2 We have moe Malësia 3 Clean Up 4 The Geography section 5 2 cents 6 Unsourced speculations 7 Moved comments from article to talk page

[edit] General comments

My goodness, what an interesting geographical designation. Backed by long and contentious history we expect... and a similar future no doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetman (talk • contribs) 02:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Part of the article needs rephrasing of some sort(meaning some grammar corrections).Is anyone up to it?Amenifus (talk) 12:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] We have moe Malësia

Malësia in south montenegro, nord Albania and west Kosovo it was called Malësia or in gegë dialect Malcia e Shkodrës. It was the high land of the Shkodra Vilajet.--Ejte 05:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean Up

I've taken it upon myself to clean up this article, alond with the individual clan descriptions. I have some excellent historical sources at my disposal (as well as some oral histories). With my info AND the raw information contained in the article, I suspect it will be as accurate as possible. CapedCamish 16:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)Robert Luke Camaj

[edit] The Geography section

I had to delete much of the geography section because, not only was it too bulky, but most of the information that was there was too tedious. I'm currently working on a map that will express what the previous author was trying to say.

Trust me, much editing and adding of information will be done later, although now I simply want to keep the page clean of redudant information. Further, it sounds plagiarized from a textbook so, to be on the safe side, let's leave it out (e.g. "Geography is the only way to know a people," etc.). It will be fixed, I promise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.46.116.90 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2 cents

I am the author of this information - wrote it about 2 years ago. Some info has been deleted, but it is OK because it was not referenced - time did not permit

I want to thank the person who edited the article last for his/her great English language craftsmanship (that coming from a hard grading English teacher)

I have one request. Keep the name Malcia/Maltsia as is. (I am not getting into the politics of language here) However, if you want to use the Standard'72’s conventions, then the official and the grammatically correct name is Malsi e Madhe, or just Malsi.

Another thing: This page is about the heritage of all Maltsia people, not about the Malsia as a region in Montenegro or Malsi e Madhe in Albania. Definetely not about a particular religion. Hence, I think, you should include the Maltsor people that live by the Adriatic Sea, Rugova and Vuthaj as well (they could be your cousins)

I'm setting up an Albanian page with everything in this page and much more -- all referenced, with pictures of the books.

Keep up the good work.

P.S. I implore you not to adhere to the Albanian History and Culture books written during the communist regime (and those written afterwards which adhere to that attitude). It will be a disservice to anyone that reads the article.

thanks again

[edit] Unsourced speculations

Illyrian Religious Practices .......and moreMegistias (talk) 19:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moved comments from article to talk page

If you do not know the history, please refrain yourselves from "contributing" to the page. 1) Maltsia is not about being catholic or muslim but about maintaining the pre-ottoman tradition

2) It was Prenk Tsali that lead the anti-communist rebellion against the communists and the war took place in Kelmen. Llesh Marashi was important and the head of Shkodra County for a time, but not the leader. The War took place in Kelmen, not in Shkrel. 3) Kelmeni is by far the largest region, if we count the new settlements in Rugova and the Adriatic Shore.

4) Keep this in mind. Maltsia people are not called tribes. That is what the Islamic Fundamentalist/Communist/Homosexual Enver Hodja Called us only to hide his turkish/gypsy/arabic origins.

Maltsia has always been known as "Male" (mountains). So Maltsia has 7 Mountains NOT 7 tribes. Thank you.

If you do not mind, please stay out of my way, unless, you too, are doing the homework before "contributing"..... thanks a million ... u're all brothers n' sisters of mine.

By the way, if you know someone that understands Gheg Albanian and can translate it for you in english, check this site Malcia esepcially, check the RESOURCES, as they come from Marin Sirdani, the founder of Albanian Critical History, Counsel of Austro-Hungary and many other albanologists, anthropoligsts, dialectologists, writers and other professionals.

(Posted by anon user to article page) κaτaʟaveno^T_C 01:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I can translate but have no access to the books mentioned in the page.Not sure if it's ok to use the page itself as sources.Amenifus (talk) 08:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

What these ignoramus who learned the albanian history either through Hodja or Tito is painful - worse than anadollak (turkish) occupation To find the books, you need to go to Shkodra City or Prishtina City I do not know where in Prishtina, but in Shkodre, here is where to find them 1) Piaca (ne shqip -- pyet: Ku asht pjaca? 2) Visit Libraria Camaj-Pipa, Libraria Franceskane dhe Nji Library Pa Emen ne mes te dy librarive te permenduna. Ajo Librari ka shum lira mbi Letersine dhe Gjuhen. Nuk asht Aq Komerciale sa Camaj-Pipa dhe jo aq Kristiane se Libraria Frnceskane, por asht ne nji nivel ma te Larte intelektual se te dy librarie e tjere sepse u sherben Profesorve dhe Studenteve te Institutit Luigj Gurakuqi. (Per arsye qe nuk kuptohen ata e reklamojne vetveten si nji kinkaleri - variety, art, and beautY shop, but all they sellis Books for the University

Thanks

PS. some of the front covers of the books are published in www.malcia.org

thanks again —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.32.109 (talk) 00:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Pyet: ku asht pjaca?.Funny.Well, I lack both the time and resources of a trip to either Shkoder or Prishtine.Thanks, though.Amenifus (talk) 09:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)