Talk:List of places in Kent

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Contents 1 Expand 2 MfD result 3 See what the result might be! 4 Copied from user talk pages 5 My twopenneth 6 Not a list

[edit] Expand

See List of places in Cornwall for comparison.

Tyrenius 02:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MfD result

This page was the subject of an MfD debate, closed on 26 April 2006. The result was Keep by strong consensus. Xoloz 19:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See what the result might be!

If you look at this list you will get some idea of how large the article will be! Peter Shearan 13:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copied from user talk pages

Hello! I have been interested in the interplay about this article, and your comments. However, although I agree in principle with your sentiments, and the comparison with Cornwall, it ought to be realised that in comparing the sparsely populated county of Cornwall with Kent, the latter will provide rather more "places" than the former. I invite you to look at the list here - there are over 400 of them! I am also putting forawrd a comment to the powers that be about the ubiquitous use in Wikipedia of the word "place", which in my mind can be a very woolly idea. How big (or indeed small) is a place? I quoted one 0.9 km² area in streetmap of a relatively rural area in Kent with eight "places" (two hamlets, four farms, and two isolated houses) on it.

Where do we draw the line? Peter Shearan 13:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Peter, the list of 400 seems excellent to me! However, if it is too long, the obvious solution seems a division of some kind. This could be a list of towns, and another list of villages, or else divided by areas of Kent with towns and villages in that area. As to the cut-off point, that will have to be resolved by editors, presumably based on a comparison with other county place lists for consistency. Tyrenius 14:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My twopenneth

I don't think the list would be unworkably long, even if taken to be the whole of Kent: the département of the Pas-de-Calais just across the Straits of Dover has 894 communes (see the list). Anything which is a civil parish should be included, although there may well be a need for editor discretion on some tricky cases. Physchim62 (talk) 11:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I tend to disagree about adding civil parish, since some have names which are nothing to do with the village(s) within the area enclosed; and some include more than one village (eg the civil parish Cobham includes the settlement of Sole Street; and some include three or more). It simply complicates the reader if two different things - such as village and civil parish are mixed together, even if the local population often sees them as the same thing. Population figures, for example, are given for the whole parish, and not just the village.

Thankyou for your comment re Pas-de-Calais. Peter Shearan 13:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not a list

This is not a list. It is a group of templates. If you're too lazy to make a list, don't call it a list. Migdejong 12:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. What should we call it, or why don't you help by retyping it? Olive Oil 12:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Well its easy to criticise. :) I've converted to a list format split by district, which was actually quite easy to do using the existing templates. I hope to roll out the current style to the other "list of places in..." articles. MRSC • Talk 06:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The new format looks good, the only problem is the original templates appear at the end of each of the places article pages and when each template was updated the article page and this list was automatically updated,

perhaps it needs either

• an editable template within the article template (includes header and footer) which also appears on this page (without the header and footer)
• or perhaps just a note on the templates requesting the editor to update this page as well

- Olive Oil -_ŢάĽɮ - 09:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)