Talk:List of common World War II infantry weapons
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There are a lot of very UNcommon weapons listed here. If you're going to include some fairly esoteric stuff like the Johnson LMG - that was used only by Marine Raider units early in the war - you should consider renaming the article List of WWII Infantry Weapons. If not you need to purge out the oddballs - like the Johnson and the German one-offs. Just because they show up in a videogame doesn't mean they were even remotely common in reality.--Lepeu1999 20:19, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed Maxim gun. In its original form the Maxim was outdated by WW2, and while there may have been a more modern Russian gun based on it, more info is needed rather than just saying 'the Russians used the Maxim gun'. DJ Clayworth 22:48, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Maxim M1910 was the primary Russian HMG through the war. It was never fully replaced with SG-43, appearing in 1943. Pibwl 12:42, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I would like to keep this page for weapons that were the primary ones in their class for the respective nations. A few exceptions, like the M1 Thompson and M3 "Grease Gun" which were both submachine guns used in large numbers are allowed. Oberiko 21:15, 27 Jan 2004
- In many cases several weapons were used as primary ones, for example French ancient Berthier and lebel rifles (MAS-36 were in minority) Pibwl 12:42, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Is this a list of weapons used by infantry, or personal weapons used by infantry? Is it only a list of what each country used that they made, or should each country's entry include weapons made by another country? GraemeLeggett 14:10, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
THe lugger wasn't in common usage, Hitler replaced it with a new pistol... It should probably be listed in the "secondary weapon list"
- The Luger was very common and popular even though the issue sidearm was the Walther P38. The Luger was considerably more common then many of the other weapons on this list.--Lepeu1999 01:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the "rare" weapons not be in this list since it is labeled as a list of "common" infantry weapons?Echo.brian 20:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't argue if you took them out--Lepeu1999 01:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
needs more flamethrowers
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[edit] removed stuff
i removed things with the word rare and the assult rifle section due to they fact none of them werent common. i also took out luger because they were actualy not used muched by the german army, the widespread usage is something popularized by the media and movies.
- I replaced it and left a note on your talk page. The Luger was rarer then the P38 but to say it was 'not used much' is an over simplification. The MP44 and FG42 should remain in the article as even though they were rare, they both had a huge impact on subsequent weapon's design (the MP44 was the major inspiration for the AK47 and the FG42 the M60 Light Machine Gun)--Lepeu1999 12:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes they had futre inpact but this is common weapons not weapons that had a really good impact later on inlife. I could put in the liberator for gos skae on that bases, i could say it realy impacted concield weapons, but reall y i personaly would love to have those weapons here if they belonged, but seroisuly i undesrtan that media and video games have brought alot of attention to these weapons and over exagrete there use. if you wacth anything on the sturmgewher u wil see it never made a real impact, and Ive seen an interview with Mikhail kalashnikov that he even said the AK series of rifles were based more on the M1 garand and M1 carbine, the look of the sturm gewher is just cosmitcal. and also the M60 was a horible weapon it could barly do its job right, and the fg42 had mayby 5000 made total, seroisly unless you can provide some good evidence of why they should be kept besides futre impact,(also i think u should mkae a gun articls on revoultionary desgins u coulkd put it in there). Please this common weapons all rares can go to second /special issue (Esskater11 14:38, 19 May 2007 (UTC))
If you want to remove the really esoteric ones like the VG series and some of the one-off's, go ahead. I'm going to disagree with you on the Luger, MP44 and Fg42 as they WERE standard issue weapons. I can live with you taking out the latter 2 but not the P08. It was possibly 'uncommon' but it was far from rare. Certainly more common the the Walther PP series and they were a very popular private purchase pistol.--Lepeu1999 21:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I will not remove the P-08 and the only reason i dint remove private purchase i didnt no how common they were. but i am removing the sturm and FG. i hope this can be an acitable copromise(Esskater11 01:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC))
[edit] stop adding Gewher 43
it wasnt common at all. the media and video games give the impression that it was. unless someone can give me a source that it was used exstensivly by all of the army of germany i will remove it emiditly. it belongs in secondary/special issue.(Esskater11 18:57, 7 June 2007 (UTC))
[edit] private purchases?
should they be included(Esskater11 18:48, 10 June 2007 (UTC))
this needs to have a lock on it for new users i constintly have to remove things
[edit] Please Read before contributing to the Germany section of this page
Many of you want to make this section better but unfortanuatly u actualy vadilze this section by addding
- Gewehr 43
- Mp44
please do not add these anymore they werenot common at alllll but media outlets and video games give the impression they were. any additions of these weapons will emiditly be reverted by me. i wrote this hoping people will read this and save me some time. (ForeverDEAD 03:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC))
I don't know about others, but when I put those down it's not because I thought they were common so much as I just didn't notice 'common' in the title. that could be part of the problem.--MKnight9989 12:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Countries
Let's put the weapons in the list according to the COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.We all know they were used by several countries but, if they wanted to know that, then they could look on the given article.Thank you.RobertLunaIII (talk) 20:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree: it's unclear to me whether this lists common infantry weapons by country of origin, manufacturers, or weapons used by the infantries of various participating countries in WWII. I am stumped, for example, by the absence of Canada in this list, despite the presence of countries like Finland or Hungary. As both an important participant in the war, and a major manufacturer of many of the weapons listed here, Canada should be present, unless you only intend to list countries where these weapons were designed. If that's the case, Australia should only list the Owen, and perhaps the Sten-derived Austen SMGs.
If you are listing countries that manufactured weapons for use in WWII, Canada needs to be included. One could argue that Canada produced British weapons under contract, and that Canadian infantrymen were equipped in a similar fashion to their British counterparts, but that is not necessarily the case. John Inglis and Company made 60% of all Bren guns by 1943, as well as the Browning HP pistol, under contract from Fabrique Nationale. The Long Branch Arsenal likewise manufactured large quantities of Lee-Enfields, Canada-specific Sten SMGs (the Sten Mk. II-Canadian), and Bren guns.
Perhaps the best option would be to delete the Australia heading, and modify the "United Kingdom" heading so as to create a new "UK and Commonwealth" heading, perhaps with sub-headings for weapons specific to one or another of the "dominions".
Belgium's weapons should also be listed here, along with Czechoslovakia's. BugEyes (talk) 22:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
